Do you ever post anything worth reading? I could kick myself for taking the time to read your last post.

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Remember dunking itself used to be "showboating" as well.

Bull SHIT! (just like everything that preceded it...)

QUOTE (paxno1 @ Mar 31 2005, 05:12 PM)

Do you ever post anything worth reading? I could kick myself for taking the time to read your last post. Bull SHIT! (just like everything that preceded it...)

Are you trying to tell me that dunking didn't used to be considered showboating?

Jerry West had mad hops and never did it and that was precisely the reason.

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That goddam showboatin' white boy. All those 3 pt shootin', fundamental bball playin', two hand passin', set shot shootin', good grade gettin' honkies are RUINING COLLEGE BASKETBALL!

Yeah and the Marvin Williams is too I suppose. I wasn't bashing them I was saying that everyone does it and I could really care less if they do.

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I can tolerate jersey-pulling; that seems to at least indicate school/team spirit. Hand-behind-the-head dunk, diamond sign, throat slash, etc. = LOOK AT ME! = HOTDOG.

You do realize that the jersey pull comes from hip hop origins just as much as the rocafella sign does.

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Are you trying to tell me that dunking didn't used to be considered showboating?

Yes - can't you read? Next you're gonna tell us that jump shots were showboating.

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You do realize that the jersey pull comes from hip hop origins just as much as the rocafella sign does.

You do realize that you don't know what you're talking about, as usual, right? I've seen Walt Frazier do it, Wilt Chamberlin do it, Pete Marrevich do it... long before you were born. I've also seen Jim Spanarkle (sp?) from Duke do it, and I've seen Skip Brown (WFU) do it... also long before your time. You're an idiot.

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This is ridiculous. The only reason you are complaining about it is because it was done by a UNC player. If it was anyone else on your own favorite team would you still complain about it? I doubt it.

Damn!For a minute there,I thought I was reading yet another whiny-azz tarhole complaint about K's AMEX ad.Hypocrite.

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I thought this was about Marvin?

So did I but like I said...

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I've seen Walt Frazier do it, Wilt Chamberlin do it, Pete Marrevich do it... long before you were born. I've also seen Jim Spanarkle (sp?) from Duke do it, and I've seen Skip Brown (WFU) do it... also long before your time.

I'VE done it in high school....in a baseball uniform.

I guess it's akin to a behind-the-back pass. If it ain't necessary, it's usually showboating... kinda like a h-b-t-h dunk.

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You do realize that you don't know what you're talking about, as usual, right? I've seen Walt Frazier do it, Wilt Chamberlin do it, Pete Marrevich do it... long before you were born. I've also seen Jim Spanarkle (sp?) from Duke do it, and I've seen Skip Brown (WFU) do it... also long before your time. You're an idiot.

Then what happened to it in the 90's and late 80's? I never saw anybody do it until like a 2 or 3 years ago. Jordan didn't do it, Bird didn't do it, Magic didn't do it. I wasn't around for Pistol pete or Wilt but I never saw Wilt do it in any ESPN classic game I've ever seen.

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Then what happened to it in the 90's and late 80's?

I don't know... and how do you know all of those players never did it? Did you see every one of their games? Maybe they did it when you weren't looking. Why don't you ask capt. bs - he's chock full of faks.

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You do realize that the jersey pull comes from hip hop origins just as much as the rocafella sign does.

You're the one who made this ^ claim. Again, you were wrong.

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I don't know... and how do you know all of those players never did it? Did you see every one of their games? Maybe they did it when you weren't looking. Why don't you ask capt. bs - he's chock full of faks.

Well I see it every other game I watch now and it never used to happen even close to as much as it does now. I never saw Jordan do it in any playoff game or anyone else for that matter. Reggie Miller or any other pacer did it during the playoffs. I haven't seen every game in the past 10 years but I never saw anyone do it in any play off game until about 2 or 3 years ago.

You said it had hip-hop origins... like it was only recently thought up or something. You were absolutely wrong.

QUOTE (paxno1 @ Apr 1 2005, 12:08 AM)

You said it had hip-hop origins... like it was only recently thought up or something. You were absolutely wrong.

I have never seen any one of older guys do it and Xzbit started doing it about 5 years ago and now all of a sudden it makes a resurgence at about the same time. You say it was done before but I've never seen it.

paxno8's brother said it was so....thus it shall be.

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*YAWN*

Tell us some more make-believe stories about MooU skippy....they're always so entertaining.

What's the one about UNC's 1993 NCAA title team being full of felons? How'd that one go again? George Lynch was sch a THUG the way he rebounded the basketball.

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Once again, imbecility rears its ugly head...

You're really starting to slide way beyond pathetic, capt. bs. You've been getting your balls racked here for so long you were compelled to start this moronic thread to try trick me into taking a certain tack... and as usual you come up short. This is what, the third time (I didn't bother looking back through the thread to actually count) you've changed topics in a vain attempt to one-up me? And the best you can do is this?!! LMAOAU!!! I made pretty accurate generalization and you managed to find ONE team that didn't have a public rap sheet member. Wow, hang a banner.

Your assignment:

Go back and dig up the thread, post it here, and find another kurlina bball team that fits the parameters. If you can find another that fits, then I'll find 10 that don't.

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You're really starting to slide way beyond pathetic

That can only be considered a compliment coming from someone like you....Thanks

But the topic has never changed: you are a lying hypocritical sack of shit pussy

Has a ncsu team accomplished anything without going on probation?

Quit callin people names.

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Oh dear, little bullshit artist - you sound angry. Did your thweetie thlap you around last night?

Now, instead of admitting you are a pussy since you continue to SPIN you accusation that Marvin is a THUG, you've switched topics yet again. I FACED your dumbass then and I will do it again. You claimed that all of UNC's accomplishments were by teams comprised of THUGS. You are an idiot as I pointed out last time.

Can you answer the question? Has ncsu accompished anything without going on probation? Were these teams comprised of THUGS?

So, between you and dainty prancer, who's winning your embarassingly juvenile 'Award Myself the Most Faces' contest? LMAO... again! You're so dim you couldn't administer a facial to Paris Hilton, you simpleton.

As far as murvin goes - well, if the shoe fits...

thug (n) - A cutthroat or ruffian; a hoodlum [syn: hood, hoodlum, goon, punk, tough, toughie, strong-armer]

hoodlum (n) - A gangster; a thug. [syn: hood, goon, punk, thug, tough, toughie, strong-armer]

punk (n) - A young person, especially a member of a rebellious counterculture group.

So, for the mentally impaired:

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"williams showed he's a thug right out of the mccancer mold - hotdog, attitude, thug ...  "

attitude (n) - An arrogant or hostile state of mind or disposition.
hotdog (n) - To perform daring stunts or ostentatious maneuvers
showboating (v) - seeking attention by ostentatious behavior; showing off.


murvin's h-b-t-h dunk was absolutely ostentatious (hotdogging, showboating).
mccancer's attention-seeking antics and attitude (diamond sign, throat slash, mugging, etc.) absolutely relegate him to the ranks of punk, hoodlum, thug, hotdog, showboater. Since the fact is totally lost on you that murvin's hotdogging and mugging are right out of the mccancer mold, one can only surmise that you are indeed a moron.

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Can you answer the question? Has ncsu accompished anything without going on probation? Were these teams comprised of THUGS?

'74 - NC
'83 - NC
'89 - Sweet 16
'02 - NCAA's
'03 - NCAA's
'04 - 2nd rd., NCAA's
'05 - Sweet 16

And while we await your list, I'll just remind you that this challenge was initiated in a discussion about the total bullshit that is 'the kurlina way'... Last I checked, State isn't now, nor have they ever been, pumping some bogus 'State Way' PR machine. However, if one were to compare rap sheets, State would certainly be more qualified to do so than kurlina.


You continue to be an idiot prick.

According to you, every athlete in college athletics is a THUG...well, except for MooU affaletes due to your double standard.

It took you 24 hrs to come up with that? You are the definition of toolbelt.

For probably the 10th time:

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Can you answer the question? Has ncsu accompished anything without going on probation? Were these teams comprised of THUGS?

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It took you 24 hrs to come up with that?

Some of us don't devote every waking hour to defending the indefensible like some of you no-life fektards. The in-laws-to-be have been at the house since Th. evening. Had I known you were keeping constant vigil at your monitor anxiously awaiting my response, I might have responded sooner.






Then again, probably not.

As you can see, capt. fak, I popped back in and edited my earlier post (reread it - you'll see you're wrong again) in response to your other question... and btw, that wasn't anywhere near 'the 10th time', liar.

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According to you, every athlete in college athletics is a THUG...well, except for MooU affaletes due to your double standard.

Just how fekking retarded are you?!! The comment you have chosen to harp on incessantly was a comment on murvin's h-b-t-h dunk... period. The fact that you obviously are working your ass off to put some kind of spin on it is your problem.

You're wrong... again!

For probably the 11th time:

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Can you answer the question? Has ncsu accompished anything without going on probation? Were these teams comprised of THUGS?

QUOTE (SchoolZone @ Apr 2 2005, 01:14 PM)

For probably the 11th time: QUOTE   Can you answer the question? Has ncsu accompished anything without going on probation? Were these teams comprised of THUGS?

Explain to me how the 1983 championship team had anything to do with the probation in 1991. Please, no quotes from the fictional book Personal Fouls. Simon & Schuster wouldn't publish it for fear of a libel suit, which the NC Attorney General was prepared to file.
Thugs on that team? I've heard Cozell wasn't the brightest star in the universe, but I don't remember any of them getting arrested. Chris Washburn was a thug, but he wasn't on that team.

I don't remember the reason the 1973 (prior to the NC) team was on probation although I've heard it was for stuff that would be overlooked today by the NCAA. The 1974 championship team wasn't on probation.

Don't pick on capt. fak, Lee - he did manage to scratch around and find one kurlina team that managed to accomplish something substantial without doing it on the backs of a bunch thugs.

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For probably the 11th time:

For probably the millionth time:

Can you read?!!

QUOTE (SchoolZone @ Apr 2 2005, 02:14 PM)

For probably the 11th time: QUOTE   Can you answer the question? Has ncsu accompished anything without going on probation? Were these teams comprised of THUGS?

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For probably the millionth time: Can you read?!!

^^^^^^^^^.







Imbecile.

QUOTE (packchick03 @ Mar 30 2005, 01:20 PM)

If they were so fond of each other, you'd think that Mrs. Downum would've been able to track her favorite nurse down directly instead of having to post a letter in the newspaper.

Did Hodge ever take a swing at any of his teachers? Or is that just other players when he gets mad about the game?

The only swing I ever heard about was the one he took at blake. Unlike ed cota's victim, though, I don't think blake was outnumbered or on the ground when Hodge took a retaliatory poke at him.

I don't think Hodge got kicked out 5 schools growing up or grabbed any crotches...ala Melvin Scott.

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I don't think Hodge got kicked out 5 schools growing up or grabbed any crotches...ala Melvin Scott.

Julius also didn't attend some bogus "unaccredited" prep school to stay eligible for bball ala "Eazy" Ed...

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The school, Christopher Robin Academy, does not have any sports teams but virtually ever academically troubled basketball player in New York City in the past decade -- from former North Carolina star Ed Cota to current NBA player Lamar Odom -- has used this school as a backdoor route to college basketball

http://notes.ire.org/IREResources.nsf/0/6f...17?OpenDocument

Christopher Robin Academy??????? Sure that isn't a daycare?



Actually, that's probably all it is.

QUOTE (Lee Corso @ Apr 2 2005, 03:08 PM)

Explain to me how the 1983 championship team had anything to do with the probation in 1991.

It's your head coach...Jimmy V. An admitted cheater that is well documented.

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I don't remember the reason the 1973 (prior to the NC)  team was on probation although I've heard it was for stuff that would be overlooked today by the NCAA.    The 1974 championship team wasn't on probation.

Recruitment of David Thompson, was it not? He was a member of the 1974 team and you had to cheat to get him.

Did paxno8 just list 2nd round NCAA's as an accomplishment? Okay, that is an accomplishment for ncsu, but anything less than NCAA title for Carolina is a CHOKE-job.

QUOTE (SchoolZone @ Apr 4 2005, 01:29 PM)

... but anything less than NCAA title for Carolina is a CHOKE-job.

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Recruitment of David Thompson, was it not? He was a member of the 1974 team and you had to cheat to get him.

*cough-ms.stackhouse-cough*

Ok, so we've proven that the list of accomplishments by the ncsu bball program is sprinkled with a few Sweet 16's and 2nd round finishes in the NCAA tournament.

At least by sucking now, you're not making the bball program any worse.

QUOTE (Lee Corso @ Apr 2 2005, 03:08 PM)

I don't remember the reason the 1973 (prior to the NC) team was on probation although I've heard it was for stuff that would be overlooked today by the NCAA. The 1974 championship team wasn't on probation.

Link

David thompson needs no introduction to any Wolfpack fan. He was certainly the best player that ever played for the Wolfpack -- and we have had some good ones -- and perhaps the greatest basketball player ever.

The only blemish on thompson's great career at NCSU was that the 1972/73 team was on probation -- ostensibly for violations related to his recruitment to NCSU.

You can read the official NCAA Investigation Results here. However, in his book Skywalker, thompson paints the story of what happened a little differently than the official report. And, thompson has some ideas of who it was that turned in N.C. State to the NCAA. thompson never mentions Dean Smith, long a target of conjecture about this episode. Instead, he has some ideas about Bill Guthridge, Dean's fomer assistant.

more...

On page 21-23 of Skywalker, thompson recounts the story this way:

\"Lord knows there were plenty of juicy rumors going around about my family and me. According to one of them, some NC State boosters had actually paved the road to our home, contracting with Daniels Construction Company, which emplyed my father, to do the bulldozing. Well, the road was in fact put in, but my father himself paid $125 a month to have the work done over a period of a year.

Another rumor involving NC State was that they built the thompson family a $35,000 home. The NCAA’s visit to our home promptly shot down that allegation.

Other rumors had it that one school offered me a Cadillac, while another offered my father a job with a handsome salary. It was even claimed that I was seen driving around in Dean Smith’s Cadillac, and that he told me I could keep the vehicle if I came to UNC.

Even tiny Gardner-Webb was ludicrously accused of offering me huge sums of money to lure me there. So many rumors, so little truth.

Coach Sloan advised me to be straightforward and just tell the NCAA investigator the truth. He expected, at most, a slap on the wrist.

My interview lasted just a few hours. The man started out very nice, but then began asking a lot of leading questions. The tone of his voice became more serious with each passing minute. I just tried to be truthful, as my parents had always taught me. And told him everything I knew.

Then all of a sudden another lightning bolt struck—in the form of NCAA infractions. The first one occurred the summer before my freshman year. My two close friends and high school teammates, Jerry and Larry Hunt, were working a basketball camp at NC State. They stayed in the dorm in the evenings, and one night I slept there. TheNCAA was notified by an “unknown” source, and they eventually deemed my overnight stay another violation. Their reasoning was that the school provided me with housing before I was actually registered as a student there, even though I had already signed with the school. The NCAA found NC State guilty of not charging me $8 a week for using the dorm room.

Still another came that same summer, after I had signed with the Wolfpack, I played in some pickup games in Carmichael Gym, the practice facility on campus. Eddie Biedenbach, the NC State assistant coach, also participated in a few of the pickup games when an extra man was needed to make the teams even. Tipped off again, the NCAA ruled that “a coach cannot ‘try out’ players before school starts, even if that player has already signed with the school.”

Excuse me, but…try out? Let’s see. I was one of the top players in the country that had already signed with NC State. Why in the world would the team be “trying me out?” What was the reasoning behind that decision?

Another violation was deemed to have occurred when Charlie Bryant, a former assistant for NC State, gave me a ride to and from NC State on a school-paid visit. Bryant, who was at the time in the banking business and lived in nearby Gastonia, gave me a ride to the campus. But because Charlie had been in the coaching business, the NCAA called his actions those of a “scout,” which were illegal under its rules.

Later I heard two possible explanations for the hubbub. Who knows if they’re accurate? On was that a North Carolina football player was in the gym the day we were playing ball, told his coach about it and he, in turn, ratted me out to the NCAA. The other was that someone from Gardner-Webb, not happy with my decision to play elsewhere, had gotten wind of my stay at NC State and the pickup games and then blown the whistle on me.\" (david thompson)

Thompson was never afraid to add a little flare to a dunk either.

QUOTE (FlipmodeFT @ Apr 4 2005, 02:37 PM)

Thompson was never afraid to add a little flare to a dunk either.

Dunking was not allowed when DT was in school.

QUOTE (Carlos the Jackal @ Apr 4 2005, 02:40 PM)

Dunking was not allowed when DT was in school.

I've never seen him play a college game. I have however seen him dunk numerous times in the pro game (thank you espn classic.)

plus you may want to fill in paxno of the fact that dunking was once frowned upon.

I've only seen some of the film footage of DT back in the day as I was only 3 when he rolled into Raleigh, but that cat was sick. Just amazing to watch.

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Thompson was never afraid to add a little flare to a dunk either.

One might want to just stfu once one has repeatedly proven they don't know what they're talking about.

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plus you may want to fill in paxno of the fact that dunking was once frowned upon.

Again... you're an idiot. For a long time, there weren't many collegians who could even do it. It was banned in '67 in an effort to prevent incoming 7ft. players from completely dominating the game (see Lew Alcindor, etc.). Julius Erving of the ABA re-popularized the dunk and it was reinstated at the college level around '76.

Start a new thread if you're that intent on showing how much you don't know.

QUOTE (Johnny Swank @ Apr 4 2005, 02:45 PM)

I've only seen some of the film footage of DT back in the day as I was only 3 when he rolled into Raleigh, but that cat was sick. Just amazing to watch.

DT could snatch quarters from the top of the backboard.

And give back change.

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Ok, so we've proven that the list of accomplishments by the ncsu bball program is sprinkled with a few Sweet 16's and 2nd round finishes in the NCAA tournament.

Although you idiotically reintroduced this topic in an effort to threadjack your own thread (???!!!), you are, as usual, spinning away from the original gist of the very quotes you post. Originally, this came up while discussing the outright bs that is 'the kurlina way'. You were asked to list the kurlina teams within the last 20 or so years that had accomplished anything noteworthy without doing so on the backs of thugs. TTBOMK, you managed to list.... well, 1.

We weren't discussing 'the State Way'. NC State lacks the pretentiousness required to peddle the kind of garbage that is so prevelent in chapel hole. It was about you trying to defend the long list of unx thugs. You'll have to try a different spin, capt. bs.