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Daniel Ewing
"He's one of the more underrated players in the country. He cares more about winning than himself, I believe. Mike Krzyzewski might disagree with that; he's never been able to break the kid. Ewing has finally been able to play his true position this season. He's a true point guard who can shoot. I think he'll be better in the league because of the open floor. He also defends. Worst case: He's Bobby Jackson."

J.J. Redick
"He's an undersized two guard, but one with a definable NBA skill – he is a great shooter. If you put J.J. Redick on the court with a big guard who can handle the ball and get him open shots – someone like LeBron – he'd be frightening. He's one of the few guys in the country who's automatic from mid-range and NBA range. He improved his body radically in the offseason."

Shelden Williams
"He's a terrific overachiever. Undersized. Great shot-blocking timing. Great rebounding instincts. Probably would not rebound in our league like he does on their level just because there are no big men in college basketball. Had very questionable hands coming into the season and he appears to have really addressed this. With the success of guys like Reggie Evans – undersized overachievers – it makes me think he's going to get a chance, but I think he's a second-round pick right now. If I were him, I'd stay in school."

I like these comments better:

Marvin Williams - "would be the first pick of the draft if he put his name in"

Rashad McCants - "He'll probably go in the 20s. And he'll probably have an enormous first year because he's extremely athletic."

Sean May - "Presumably he won't enter the draft unless somebody tells him he's a first-round pick. He is a first-round pick. In my opinion, he's a late first-round pick."

Ray Felton - "he's one of many who has the chance to go in the first round."

tick tock

Hansbrough, Quinton & Reyshawn might be as bad as Jawad, Capel & Lang.

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Marvin Williams - "would be the first pick of the draft if he put his name in"

Now how can the kid "improve" his draft position by staying another year at UNC? He's gone.............or incredibly stupid

Can we let 2005 play out? Are you dook and state fans assuming elimination?

No, we're hoping some team whips the heels. It would be the biggest choke in NCAA history if unc doesn't win it all, even by Roy Williams standards.

Has any team ever had 4 first round draft picks and one second rounder on the same roster?

He's right, FA. As much as UNC's players have improved along with the year Marvin's having the only one that could keep UNC from winning is Roygirl............and he's got a track record for losing when he shouldn't

QUOTE (Lee Corso @ Mar 24 2005, 07:57 PM)

No, we're hoping some team whips the heels. It would be the biggest choke in NCAA history if unc doesn't win it all, even by Roy Williams standards. Has any team ever had 4 first round draft picks and one second rounder on the same roster?

Michigan?

You guys are so full of shit. Illinois is number one. Case closed.

Final Espn poll

1. Illinois (31) 29-1 775 1
2. Duke 22-5 716 5
3. North Carolina 26-3 708 2
4. Louisville 26-4 651 6
5. Kentucky 23-4 614 4
6. Wake Forest 26-4 612 3
7. Washington 24-5 562 13
8. Oklahoma State 21-6 560 11
9. Arizona 25-5 501 8
10. Kansas 22-5 468 9

Sheldon Williams is "undersized"?

QUOTE (FlipmodeFT @ Mar 25 2005, 01:17 AM)

QUOTE (Lee Corso @ Mar 24 2005, 07:57 PM) No, we're hoping some team whips the heels.  It would be the biggest choke in NCAA history if unc doesn't win it all, even by Roy Williams standards.  Has any team ever had 4 first round draft picks and one second rounder on the same roster? Michigan?

iirc, Howard & Webber were first rounders. Jalen Rose might have been, too. Jackson was definitely not a first rounder.

Shelden is very undersized for a center at 6' 9". Heck he's pretty undersized for an NBA power forward. He'll definitely have to develop some moves off the dribble and an outside shot next year (and display them).

Did Jimmy King even get drafted? I think Rob Polenka got more NBA face time than King did....

King played 2 seasons in the NBA. Played in 62 games for Toronto & then 2 games for Denver.

He's playing for the Texas Tycoons of the ABA now. link

UNLV? The year they didn't win it.

Bzzzzt; wrong. UNLV had three future NBA ballers (Augmon, Anthony and Johnson); while they were an awesome team, they didn't have the four future first rounders on that team....

QUOTE (treetop @ Mar 25 2005, 01:59 PM)

Bzzzzt; wrong. UNLV had three future NBA ballers (Augmon, Anthony and Johnson); while they were an awesome team, they didn't have the four future first rounders on that team....

yeah, but all three of those guys were lottery picks.

Felton, Mccants and May are all most likely not Lottery picks. Felton could be, but only a late pick. Mcants used to be and May definitely isn't.

Johnson went 1st overall.
Augmon 9.
Anthony 12.

George Ackles was the 2nd pick in the 2nd round.

I think Isiah Rider might have been a sophmore or freshmen on that team and he went 5th overall in 93.

We're splitting hairs at this point.

Just proving you to be wrong, dick....

QUOTE (treetop @ Mar 25 2005, 03:17 PM)

Just proving you to be wrong, dick....

HAHA, you really are a bitter person. Relax. Its a message board.

Your mamma....

QUOTE (FlipmodeFT @ Mar 25 2005, 02:33 PM)

HAHA, you really are a bitter person. Relax. Its a message board.

Not bitter, but it's obvious that you don't know nearly what you think you do on most things you post about.....

QUOTE (FlipmodeFT @ Mar 25 2005, 01:10 PM)

Johnson went 1st overall. Augmon 9. Anthony 12. I think Isiah Rider might have been a sophmore or freshmen on that team and he went 5th overall in 93.

Doesn't that make four?

(IF he was on the team, of course)

QUOTE (treetop @ Mar 25 2005, 03:38 PM)

Not bitter, but it's obvious that you don't know nearly what you think you do on most things you post about.....

If rider was on the team then that makes 4 plus a second rounder. Exactly the criteria thats been set.

Rider's first year at UNLV was 91-92

And they won in '90 and lost in '91.....

you're wrong, dick....

QUOTE (treetop @ Mar 25 2005, 04:05 PM)

And they won in '90 and lost in '91..... you're wrong, dick....

Oh, forgot about Elmore spencer who was on that team too. He was drafted in the first round as well. SO that makes four.

DICK

Oh, you mean the great ELMORE SPENCER that scored a TOTAL of 197 points that season? WOW; man how could I forget about him? I don't even think they would have made the tourney if it wasn't for the mighty ELMORE SPENCER link for dumbass....

And drafted in the first round by the CLIPPERS; yeah, they really understand how to draft . Olawakandi, huh? Darius Miles at #3? Please....

ELMORE SPENCER was a joke of a player who was drafted in the first round b/c he is 7'0". Hell, check out his career stats....oh wait....link for dumbass

At least the four potential first rounders and second rounder for unc have played their way to their respective draft positions.....unlike the mighty ELMORE SPENCER

The question wasn't "are they any good?" The question was "was there a team that had this?"

There was.

QUOTE (Raves @ Mar 25 2005, 03:38 PM)

The question wasn't "are they any good?" The question was "was there a team that had this?" There was.

Hooray!

Why did I just hear the South Park kids going "Hooray" when I saw that?

Oh. Yeah. Towelie.

QUOTE (Raves @ Mar 25 2005, 03:45 PM)

Why did I just hear the South Park kids going "Hooray" when I saw that? Oh. Yeah. Towelie.

ELMORE SPENCER was a bitch....

Someone just told me that Elmore Spencer's momma was still breast feeding him when he was 13....


I also heard he likes to fondle little kids, and that he had a couple of his ribs removed so he could bend far enough down to give himself head.....

It has also been said that Spencer Elmore is known to masturbate to pictures of statues of famous old people, and that he was kicked out of Westminster Abbey for attempting to fondle the grave of Mary, Queen of Scots.....

Bwahaha.

I heard that he slams kittens into brick walls and plants cherry bombs in the principal's toilet.

QUOTE (treetop @ Mar 25 2005, 05:10 PM)

Someone just told me that Elmore Spencer's momma was still breast feeding him when he was 13.... I also heard he likes to fondle little kids, and that he had a couple of his ribs removed so he could bend far enough down to give himself head.....

No one ever said Elmore was any good.

You said I was wrong about the 4 first rounders and the 2nd rounder when I was actually right. Plus, The other three first rounders were in the lottery. You can talk all the smack you want about Elmore. I could care less. But then you try to make up for the fact that I was right by saying Elmore was trash. WEAK

WHy don't you try and relax a little.

Plus how many first rounders were on that 99 Duke team?

Oh wow, how could I forget.

Brand #1.
Langdon #11.
Mags #13
Avery #14

plus Battier was on that team too right?

Yep...he went #6 in the draft he left in.

So that's 5 first-rounders, right?

QUOTE (FlipmodeFT @ Mar 27 2005, 12:18 AM)

WHy don't you try and relax a little.

Dude, I am perfectly relaxed. Congrats on proving me wrong; enjoy it dick...

QUOTE (treetop @ Mar 27 2005, 01:07 PM)

Dude, I am perfectly relaxed. Congrats on proving me wrong; enjoy it dick...

Hey at least you owned up to it.

PROPS!

My initial post was supposed to imply 4 first rounders and a second rounder in the same YEAR....going pro in the same year.

There's probably been plenty of teams with 4 first EVENTUAL first rounders on the same roster. How 'bout the 97-98 unc team?

QUOTE (Lee Corso @ Mar 27 2005, 08:25 PM)

My initial post was supposed to imply 4 first rounders and a second rounder in the same YEAR....going pro in the same year. There's probably been plenty of teams with 4 first EVENTUAL first rounders on the same roster. How 'bout the 97-98 unc team?

The problem is, not all of the guys from this UNC team are going to go out from the looks of it.

Plus, that 99 duke team did have all 4 go out in the same draft and I'm sure if Battier went out he would have at least been a second rounder.

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Plus, that 99 duke team did have all 4 go out in the same draft and I'm sure if Battier went out he would have at least been a second rounder.

What a dumbass. Battier didn't come into his own as an all around player until his junior season. You like stats so much go check them sh!t4brains. Battier would pulled an Ed Cota and not even been drafted.

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The problem is, not all of the guys from this UNC team are going to go out from the looks of it.

Well it looks like Marvin's goin'. May has certainly played his way into a first round pick. McSh!ts is pretty much assured of going. That leaves Felton and boy will you guys suck without him if he does. Look for Roygirl to "persuade" him into staying

It's looking like may is the best bet to return although with the way he's been playing I'd be shocked if his dad didn't at least tell him to attend those post season try-outs.Regardless,the tarhole nation better hope those white boys coming in can play.

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Well it looks like Marvin's goin'. May has certainly played his way into a first round pick. McSh!ts is pretty much assured of going. That leaves Felton and boy will you guys suck without him if he does. Look for Roygirl to "persuade" him into staying

1996 UK had 5 first round picks. Walker, McCarty, and Delk in 96, and then Mercer and Anderson in 1997. Oh wait, they actually won the title though, so it wasn't a choke job.

QUOTE (blueduke @ Mar 28 2005, 12:18 AM)

What a dumbass. Battier didn't come into his own as an all around player until his junior season. You like stats so much go check them sh!t4brains. Battier would pulled an Ed Cota and not even been drafted. Well it looks like Marvin's goin'. May has certainly played his way into a first round pick. McSh!ts is pretty much assured of going. That leaves Felton and boy will you guys suck without him if he does. Look for Roygirl to "persuade" him into staying

Well considering he managed to start on a team with Corey Maggette coming off the bench and 4 of the 5 players being high draft picks I think he did ok for himself.

He had something like 9.1 ppg, and 5 rpg in 23 minutes a game with 4 first rounders on the team so I wouldn't say he did too shabby. His break out the next season may have had more to do with him being like the 5 option on the team for scoring and then moving up to the 1st option the next.

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He had something like 9.1 ppg, and 5 rpg in 23 minutes a game with 4 first rounders on the team so I wouldn't say he did too shabby.

Yeah that's NBA first round numbers there.

DICKHEAD

QUOTE (blueduke @ Mar 28 2005, 01:19 PM)

Yeah that's NBA first round numbers there. DICKHEAD

I never said he's be a first rounder coming out that year.

Try and follow along.

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I never said he's be a first rounder coming out that year. Try and follow along.

Wasn't the point some (not you. you're too dumb to think and we all know it) were making was that Duke had 4 players that would have been drafted that year? Battier would not have been drafted. Battier didn't get a whole lot of touches. With the numbers you posted no way Battier gets drafted that year. Try following along yourself

QUOTE (blueduke @ Mar 28 2005, 05:45 PM)

QUOTE I never said he's be a first rounder coming out that year. Try and follow along. Wasn't the point some (not you. you're too dumb to think and we all know it) were making was that Duke had 4 players that would have been drafted that year? Battier would not have been drafted. Battier didn't get a whole lot of touches. With the numbers you posted no way Battier gets drafted that year. Try following along yourself

Hey, shavlick was thinking of going straight to the pros from high school. Joe Forte was drafted in the first round. Stranger things have happened. Plus this whole criteria is flawed. Its tough to tell where a lot of these guys are going to be drafted plus the fact I'm not sure all of these guys form UNC are going to go. They could be, but who knows.

Plus, I don't get the hipocracy of all this. I've brought up NBA drafts status and success before and you all have cried foul, saying "we don't care about the pros, this is college." Now all of a sudden it would be a tragedy if projected draft picks didn't win the title.

I thought you all didn't care about the pros?