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DevilDJ
All unx'ers lost money except Marshall....
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No. 13: Suns select: Kendall Marshall PG unc Grade F Analysis: When I heard "Kendall Marshall," I really just heard, "Goodbye Steve." The Suns took what seems to be their new point guard and wow, what a downgrade. This is probably about six picks too high, and with questions about his speed and ability to guard, the Suns only regressed.


No. 14: Bucks select: John Henson PF unc Grade D Analysis: Didn't the Bucks already draft Henson last season when they took Larry Sanders? He was the best available player probably, but in terms of need, there's none. They might lose Ersan Ilyasova in free agency, but the Bucks have something like 45 forwards on the roster now. Going for versatility or a swingman would've made much more sense.

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pertsix
speaking about losing money in the draft, how's zoubek's bakery coming along?
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:sniff sniff: T-T-T-They were r-r-rouges!. Oh I'm s-s-s-sorry. Wrong thread :sniff sniff:

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DevilDJ
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speaking about losing money in the draft, how's zoubek's bakery coming along?

Apples to apples please.
DevilDJ
K just got Miles freakin' Plumlee into the first round of the NBA Draft....
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A 6-foot-10 forward. Plumlee impressed scouts with his athleticism, posting the second-best vertical leap and fifth-best score in the agility drill in the pre-draft camp in Chicago, according to his father, Perky.

His athleticism appears to be only half the story in his rise, however.

“The feedback we’re getting from general managers is that he’s a basketball player,” Perky said. “The coaches at Duke work on a lot of stuff that might not show up on game night. They trained him well.”

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Miles Plumlee, C, Duke
Pre-draft buzz: Plumlee's athleticism impressed scouts at a group workout in Minnesota and the combine, where he registered a maximum vertical jump of 40.5 inches. Once considered a lock for the second round, he has been listed as Indiana's choice at No. 26 in a Sports Illustrated mock draft.

Strengths: Did we mention Plumlee is a good athlete? Of his 262 field goals at Duke, 87 were dunks, and he posted a faster time than Tyler Zeller in the three-quarter-court sprint at the combine.

Weaknesses: A confident Plumlee is a much more effective Plumlee, and he needs to improve his mid-range jumper.

Scout's take: "He impressed when you saw him out of the Duke system because he's a competitor. I think the reason people are starting to look at him harder now is because he has a role that he played at Duke, and that role transfers into the NBA. Some of the more talented players, they can't accept that role, and he already has it and excels at that role."

Where he could end up: The Pacers are a decent fit for Plumlee, an Indiana native, because they need depth behind center Roy Hibbert. Most mock drafts have Plumlee going early in the second round.

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BTW , Perry Jones just made the "sophomore" an endangered species.
pertsix
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DevilDJ
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Classy move by Roy...a nod to Duke's national titles.
pertsix
clearly not talking about state's championships
eddiehaskell
QUOTE(DevilDJ @ Jun 28 2012, 10:19 PM) *

K just got Miles freakin' Plumlee into the first round of the NBA draft...
Pretty damn amazing considering he's white, 23 yrs old and if my not mistaken, never made all-acc first/second/third team. He should be kissing K's feet. He averaged 5 points or less his first 3 years at Duke!!
pertsix
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“The feedback we’re getting from general managers is that he’s a basketball player,” Perky said.



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26. Indiana Pacers: Duke center Miles Plumlee

Plumlee, who has two more talented younger brothers, is 7-0 and very athletic. But he's not much of a basketball player. He makes a lot of mistakes with the ball in his hands, but he won't get that opportunity often with the Pacers. He fits a team need, but they would have preferred to land Melo here. This pick is a bit of a reach with plenty of very talented players left, including big men Perry Jones and Arnett Moultrie. Grade: D




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http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ga...as-it-happens/1
pertsix
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ima do a denialdj and post a bunch of good spectator comments on this pick:


What a wasted pick. Miles Plumlee? There was better talent available.

Oooookkkkkk, and lets look to the free agent market.

What the fuck we could've used Doron Lamb or pj3

Larry bird always searching for the next great white hope... This guy lil brother mason is better... This pick was a joke

Could have got this guy late second round

However, he has no offense whatsoever and is very raw, so his professional upside is very limited.


6 ppg, 7 rpg as a senior.


I would rather not talk about him right now... Would rather go get drunk and forget this night....

Plumlee is nothing more than a toy for Tyler.

Perry Jones, Green, Lamb, Miller, Taylor ALL AVAILABLE. BUT we take Plumlee the dude that averaged 5ppg , 7 rebounds and not even 1 block over 4 years!

Pacers will take the best player available, my ***. Any 2nd rounder will be better than Plumlee.
Bird called him best dirty worker in the draft?? Has Bird lost it he isn't even a dirty worker dude hates contact. Even if he was why the **** we need a dirty worker we have like 4 of them already in Pendy Lou Hans. We ficking need talent not a scrub. We are never gonna contend with a FO passing on 25 good players for a scrub who shouldn't of been drafted.

"who did Miles Plumlee f**k to get drafted this high?"


I told you guys we could do much worse than Green.

I feel bad for the ticket reps

He's not even the best Plumlee, is he?

You CAN NOT blow the draft as a small market team, its a death sentence. We just did that.





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rachelix
You know, I'll go ahead and say it. It's not much of a year when the ACC via two schools places 6 players in the first round of the NBA draft. And I think Plumlee has yet to hit his peak.

evidence: Carlos Boozer
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who knew oompa loompas could count?
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DevilDJ
Ima do a "Pert" and shoot the messenger. USAToday... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif What?! Did that non-sports publication not have any room for a multi-colored graph or a pie-chart too? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif CBS SPORTS >>>>>> USAToday. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
DevilDJ
Why no mention of THESE comments? Ya know , those words spoken by the guy who actually COACHES the team.... laugh.gif
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"The first scouting meeting that I stepped in to, I jokingly said, 'Is there any Jeff Fosters in this draft? And about four of our scouts simultaneously said, 'Miles Plumlee!' And, we've had our eye on him ever since."

"He's clearly the best dirty-work player in the draft." Vogel continued. "A blue-collar guy. He falls right in to this team's identity."

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pertsix
miles has fantastic defensive abilities

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I believe taking a better player with more potential like Perry Jones III or Arnett Moultrie would've been the better choice over Miles Plumlee, but if he can come in and do the dirty work that's fine. I gave the Plumlee pick a D.
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miles has fantastic defensive abilities

Zeller too...

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Geez Louise , Pert. Do ya ever bother to actually THINK before you post? laugh.gif BTW , with Miles' selection one ACC coach passed another for the all-time lead in producing NBA first-rounders. Hazard a guess? laugh.gif
Duke101986
K just passed dean (who?) for most all-time first round picks.

"K can't get players to the league"

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Champs 5 times
Just a byproduct of the fact that he's been coaching longer.

Dean's pros have been much more successful.
Lee Corso
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Just a byproduct of the fact that he's been coaching longer.

He's been at Duke 32 years. Dean was at unc 36 years.


Duke101986
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He's been at Duke 32 years. Dean was at unc 36 years.


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Carlos the Jackal
QUOTE(Lee Corso @ Jun 30 2012, 01:31 PM) *

He's been at Duke 32 years. Dean was at unc 36 years.

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pertsix
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Zeller too...



zeller wasn't a perimeter defensive player. he was a post player with great offensive capabilities. HENSON was a defensive player.



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DevilDJ
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zeller wasn't a perimeter defensive player.

That's fer damn sure. rolleyes.gif Dude. No one claimed he was a perimeter defensive player. Heck , for the purposes of this conversation , he didn't HAVE to be. All he had to do was step out and make Austin put the ball on the floor. That's it. Heck , any poster HERE coulda done that. laugh.gif BTW , Zeller wasn't much of an INTERIOR defensive player either. Who's that guy hangin' on the rim? Who's the one gettin' yanked? Both look familiar. Lollers @ Zeller AND you....

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pertsix
you do know that it would be a blocking foul if he tried to contest that dunk.




i also remember unc being up DOUBLE TO dook's NOTHIN' at that point in the game (not your pic).




i also remember dook losing to lehigh in the first round of the NCAA


great show by miles as a senior leader. averaged single digits all year long. good pick by indiana
Champs 5 times
QUOTE(Lee Corso @ Jun 30 2012, 01:31 PM) *

He's been at Duke 32 years. Dean was at unc 36 years.


Wasn't aware that Coach K was only at Duke.
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DevilDJ
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you do know that it would be a blocking foul if he tried to contest that dunk.
i also remember unc being up DOUBLE TO dook's NOTHIN' at that point in the game.
i also remember dook losing to lehigh in the first round of the NCAA

You DO know that's some weak-azz retorts , don't you? Especially the Lehigh comment. How many times ya wanna hear it? unx has a shameful legacy of that kinda crap....Davidson , Weber St , College of Charleston , Hampton , Santa Clara , EA Sports All-Stars. WTF? Ok , ya got one. rolleyes.gif Duke lost to Lehigh. BFD. Given unx's history in this particular area , harpin' on the one Duke loss is silly. Jus' sayin.' BTW , what does this comment mean...
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i also remember unc being up DOUBLE TO dook's NOTHIN' at that point in the game.

Duke beat the shet outta unx that night. It was never close. That was the 30-point azz-whuppin.' Also , it would NOT have been a foul for Zeller to contest that shot. Not that it matters. That dunk followed a drive down the lane and an alley-oop from Nolan Smith. You can see 'im under the basket....blocking out Henson. laugh.gif Anyway , Miles came in from the low blocks. Zeller just couldn't ( or wouldn't ) guard 'im. laugh.gif



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BTW , which one of those moments will be shown ad infinitum everytime Duke/unx play or anytime college basketball buzzer-beaters are shown? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif BTW , Zeller is also dunking over 2-guard Andre Dawkins. Impressive , indeed. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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Indiana Pacers

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No. 26 Miles Plumlee
No. 36 Orlando Johnson

There had been rumors that Miles Plumlee would get into the first round in the weeks leading up to the draft but many scouts struggled to grasp the concept. Plumlee is 7-feet and has a 40 inch vertical. But his basketball skills are so raw that he simply doesn't justify a first round selection. The shock will eventually wear off, but the Pacers will still have to account for drafting Plumlee over Arnett Moultrie and Perry Jones. Buying a 2nd rounder to take Orlando Johnson wasn't enough to salvage their failing grade.

pertsix
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You DO know that's some weak-azz retorts , don't you? Especially the Lehigh comment. How many times ya wanna hear it? unx has a shameful legacy of that kinda crap....Davidson , Weber St , College of Charleston , Hampton , Santa Clara , EA Sports All-Stars. WTF? Ok , ya got one. rolleyes.gif Duke lost to Lehigh. BFD. Given unx's history in this particular area , harpin' on the one Duke loss is silly. Jus' sayin.' BTW , what does this comment mean...

Duke beat the shet outta unx that night. It was never close. That was the 30-point azz-whuppin.' Also , it would NOT have been a foul for Zeller to contest that shot. Not that it matters. That dunk followed a drive down the lane and an alley-oop from Nolan Smith. You can see 'im under the basket....blocking out Henson. laugh.gif Anyway , Miles came in from the low blocks. Zeller just couldn't ( or wouldn't ) guard 'im. laugh.gif
BTW , which one of those moments will be shown ad infinitum everytime Duke/unx play or anytime college basketball buzzer-beaters are shown? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif BTW , Zeller is also dunking over 2-guard Andre Dawkins. Impressive , indeed. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif



1. do you not know what a "charge circle" is?

2. dook lost to VCU. lost to lehigh. wvu. eastern michigan. providence. no reason to lose that game to lehigh. how many players joined that freshman class with a recruiting grade less than 96 by ESPN? NONE. less with more? how many are back for their sophomore year? lost how many times at home this year? by how much? losing by 20!!!! at one point to state? miles? hello?

3. i amended my statement for the original pic.
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Wasn't aware that Coach K was only at Duke.


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Why is that so funny? You guys seem to hold Roy's career at Kansas against him.
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i also remember unc being up DOUBLE TO dook's NOTHIN'

That would be a tie game, then. Great math.
DevilDJ
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1. do you not know what a "charge circle" is?

Yes. Makes zero difference. Zeller didn't even put a body on Miles. Geez Louise , do ANY tarhole players EVER fail to make a play? rolleyes.gif laugh.gif
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2. dook lost to VCU. lost to lehigh. wvu. eastern michigan. providence.

Take WVU out. They're not a mid-major. Besides , Duke got their revenge on those fux on their way to number 4.
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no reason to lose that game to lehigh

Just as there was "no reason" for unx to lose to the teams I listed. And? You make the absolute WORST , most hypocritically delusional arguments ever perpetrated on this board and that's sayin' something. laugh.gif
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how many players joined that freshman class with a recruiting grade less than 96 by ESPN? NONE. less with more?

See? This is what I'm talkin' about. You're all over the damn place. Now , we're on recruiting class rankings. Not sure how we got here though. Oh yeah. I forgot. You throw massive amounts of shet against the wall hopin' some sticks. rolleyes.gif My bad. laugh.gif "Less with more?!?!?!" Really?!?!?! From a unx fan?!?!?! laugh.gif
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how many are back for their sophomore year? lost how many times at home this year? by how much? losing by 20!!!! at one point to state? miles? hello?

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3. i amended my statement for the original pic.

Shoulda amended it all. Geez Louise , what a mess. laugh.gif
blueduke
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Why is that so funny? You guys seem to hold Roy's career at Kansas against him.


K was at Army, dude. BIG difference than Kansas. Ridiculous to even bring the comparison up. K is better than Smith or Williams and he has the wins and hardware to back it up and for the most part did it minus the Jordanesque talents Smith enjoyed his whole career. That fact while being a source of discomfort for holes is something they're just going to have to live with whether they want to or not
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K was at Army, dude. BIG difference than Kansas. Ridiculous to even bring the comparison up. K is better than Smith or Williams and he has the wins and hardware to back it up and for the most part did it minus the Jordanesque talents Smith enjoyed his whole career

+216. K paid his dues. Roy paid his players.
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NBA Draft 2012: Weird Draft Combine Results You May Not Know About

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Sprints:

And the fastest time? Not even a guard. Not even a guy considered to be that athletic. Small forward Harrison Barnes ran 3/4 of the court in 3.16 seconds.

But it gets weirder. The second best time? Thomas Robinson!

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Lane agility:

This is where things get really weird. In second place and third place were Jordan Taylor and Kim English, with times of 10.57 and 10.59 seconds. After them: two big men! JaMychal Green, of Alabama, and somehow, Miles Plumlee. The guy with the fastest overall time of 10.48 seconds- Quincy Acy.

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Verticals:

This you may have heard about. One guy had a standing vertical of 38 inches. The runner-up's jump was 34.5 inches. The runner-up was Damian Lillard. The winner? Once again, Harrison Barnes.

You have to believe that Barnes has just been busting it since his poor showing in the NCAA semifinals against Kansas. Besides his poor ball-handling skills, the primary knock on Barnes' game is his athleticism
. So much for that.

The best max vertical went to Darius Johnson-Odom, when he jumped 41.5 inches into the air. After him came, again, Miles Plumlee, who was an inch behind. (Now we know how he snuck into the first round.)


Only four players couldn't post a max vert of 30 over inches. They were (surprise, surprise) Henry Sims, J'Covan Brown (which is unacceptable for a guard), Robbie Hummel and John Henson. I'm actually more surprised about Henson's jump than Brown's. Henson is in the NBA because of his shot-blocking ability, and I'm pretty sure you usually jump when you do that.

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Bench press:

When it came to benching 185 pounds, players were at the top when they bench pressed it 15 times or more.

Jae Crowder was the only person who managed it 20 times.

Other guys who pulled off the feat without surprising anyone were Kevin Jones, Festus Ezeli, Miles Plumlee, Thomas Robinson and Jeffery Taylor.

The list in general, however, was not what most would expect, as guards and thin post players usually can't quite get to fifteen. The rest of the victors: JaMychal Green, Darius Johnson-Odom, Meyers Leonard, Scott Machado, Tyler Zeller and—you guessed it—Harrison Barnes
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but at the end of the day, the runt of the pack was Austin Rivers, who only bench pressed 185 pounds one time.

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Overall winners:

Harrison Barnes gets the gold medal for the combine Olympics, because while his scores were slightly inferior to Darius Johnson-Odom's, he completely changed his reputation. Johnson-Odom and Miles Plumlee can share the silver, Marquis Teague gets bronze, and Thomas Robinson, Quincy Acy, and Marcus Denmon each get a participation ribbon.

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Overall losers:

John Henson posted a horrible vertical for a shot-blocker, a bad bench press for a post player. He also chose not to participate in the speed/quickness tests, which may have been out of fear
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Rivers' lack of strength won't be nearly the handicap that Henson's will....plus Henson can't get off the ground. He's gonna struggle if he doesn't get stronger. Surprised that Barnes did so well. Clearly , Roy's system wasn't the forum to showcase his abilities. Miles? Well , the kid's an athlete. Should be able to board , play some D and get up an' down the court. Can back up a couple of positions. Role player. Barring injury , long career. Thank you , Coach K. Oh yeah. Almost forgot. Henson's bench...?
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It's not just a matter of size, but also strength and athleticism. Henson managed just five repetitions on the 185-pound bench press at the draft combine in Chicago last week.

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pertsix
lmao at henson and rivers. sticks
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Why is that so funny? You guys seem to hold Roy's career at Kansas against him.



the cheating part? well, yeah....
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Doug Gottlieb ‏ @ GottliebShow

And to unc fans,Suns clearly have Kendall Marshall slated as a backup now,that is bad news as backups are usually scorers # can'tguard


Dennis Marshall MHA ‏ @ Tigerstyle1972

@ GottliebShow this dude sound like a real analyst to y'all??? Been wrong a whole lot lately. # clown

Dennis Marshall MHA ‏ @ Tigerstyle1972

@ GottliebShow notorious unc hater. U mad because others made it where you couldn't hack it. U continue to take shots.


Doug Gottlieb ‏ @ GottliebShow

@ hugetarheelfan Nash can score,did not excel in league until he went to Dallas-got his own team-Kendall can't score-

Doug Gottlieb ‏ @ GottliebShow

@ Tigerstyle1972 right,like when I said unc could get to final 4 w/o Kendall,best team w/him- # clearlyahater



Dennis Marshall MHA ‏ @ Tigerstyle1972

@ hugetarheelfan @ GottliebShow he blasted Marshall on ESPN before the draft and then he goes in the lottery. Him and his boy

Dennis Marshall MHA ‏ @ Tigerstyle1972

@ GottliebShow Will always remember your words. Kendall isn't even good enough to be a back up in the NBA...

Doug Gottlieb ‏ @ GottliebShow

@ Tigerstyle1972 not what I said-Back ups in NBA pick up 94'-change tempo-he will struggle to be gr8 in limited minutes against elite ath

Dennis Marshall MHA ‏ @ Tigerstyle1972

@ GottliebShow Guess you missed the second half of last college basketball season. Difference between can't score and not having to score.

Doug Gottlieb ‏ @ GottliebShow

@ Tigerstyle1972 backup PGs in the west-Bledsoe,OJ Mayo,Dragic,Jimmer to name a few- and where exactly were the mistakes?

Dennis Marshall MHA ‏ @ Tigerstyle1972

@ GottliebShow @ noahsdad39 He's a "college analyst". Not NBA. He's never been at that level. He doesn't know.

Doug Gottlieb ‏ @ GottliebShow

@ Tigerstyle1972 but what do I know about being an elite passing point who can't score

Doug Gottlieb ‏ @ GottliebShow

1-safety net 2-good question“ @ noahsdad39: @ GottliebShow why take a back up PG with the 12th pick in the draft??”

Dennis Marshall MHA ‏ @ Tigerstyle1972

@ GottliebShow Averaged over 14ppg and shot almost 50% from three the last 10 games. Doesn't sound like someone who can't score to me.

Doug Gottlieb ‏ @ GottliebShow

@ Tigerstyle1972 i watched every game- NC State game was impressive- I stand by my analysis
DevilDJ
Dennis Marshall AKA MrTiger1 is Kendall's dad , I believe. He used to do the same shet while his son was prepping for/attending college....troll messag boards to tout obnoxously tout his son and all things unx. He's the archetype of the fat loser living life vicariously thru his sons' career. KM actually seems to be a good kid. His dad is a dolt. I feel kinda sorry for Kendall. Seriously.
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i dont. seriously.
DevilDJ
unx fans defend their own with a religious fervor. From the same feed...
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@Tigerstyle1972 @gottliebshow why argue with him. Kendall was a lottery pick after his Soph year. game speaks for him. Doug was undrafted

Appears this man of God sat all that aside long enough to stand up and speak out on something REALLY important.

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i dont. seriously.

I may have to amend my original assessment.... wink.gif
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RE: Gottleib vs....


Butter scored 119 points over the last 10 games. Math is not my strength but I don't think that averages out to 14 ppg. (He did shoot 54% though.)

As for that 54%, a lot of that was on layups and shots near the rim that I don't expect he's going to see or convert those shots a great deal once he gets in the NBA. He'll have a harder time getting around NBA point guards and he's not terribly explosive near the rim which will make it tough against the bigger and more agile NBA defenders.

That said, talking about Kendall Marshall's scoring is a lot like talking about Kevin Garnett's ball handling... it's not what makes him unique as a player. What's tough when talking about a guy like Marshall is that the things that make him unique aren't measurable. His vision, feel for the game, and court awareness don't show up in combine drills. There simply haven't been a whole lot of guys like him - Jason Kidd is the most apt comparison and sure, Kidd was a much more prolific scorer in college. But then, in college Kidd had Lamond Murray as a teammate and that was about it. Marshall had Zeller, Henson, Harrison Barnes, Harrison Barnes' ego, Harrison Barnes reputation, and Harrison Barnes' preseason All-American rankings and all those guys needed the ball.

Short story is:

- Gottleib is right in saying that Marshall won't be much of a scorer in the NBA.
- Gottleib is wrong in inferring this will hold Marshall back from producing at the level of a #12 pick.
- Kendall Marshall seems to be a pretty good guy on and off the court.
- Either Kendall picked up those characteristics from his mother or they skipped a generation
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Nominate | ReportPosted: Today 11:53 AM

RE: Gottleib vs....


I hope everyone realizes I was kidding. Marshall is going to be a total bust. He had huge assist numbers based on two things (1) Very good court vision, and (2) four other first round draft picks on the floor with him at all times who were almost always bigger, faster, stronger and more skilled than the man who was guarding them. The fact he followed the worst pg in unc history tends to further augment his rep for brilliance. He's a very capable passer, but when every guy on you team has a great chance of scoring whenever they get the ball, well, assists are a bit easier to come by. Amazingly, when his HS team wasn't chock full of great players, he was rather pedestrian, numbers-wise. So unless he goes to a team featuring Kobe, LBJ, Durant and D12, I expect he won't look quite as preternaturally gifted.

Combined with the fact he is a poor scorer and a God-awful defender in a league chock full of super quick, athletic points who can score as easily as they breath (and pass and defend), and I don't see how he ever makes an impact.

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Re: Gottleib vs....


This "Kendall is a classy kid" myth that Duke fans are sippin is complete hogwash. He didn't show any class during the two Duke games last year. Next to Henson he talked the most trash (which I don't necessarily have a problem with) of anybody. Evidence is that weird pic of him smiling to the crowd during last year's game @ Cryolina, while his hand is in I believe Curry's face who is in mid-shot.

He may be cool off the court but he's extremely cocky on it, which most good - great players are. My problem is guys like Butta who like to talk when they're surrounded by other talent, but have nothing to say when they have to make average - below players better
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