Let's just go ahead and award him the Cy Young.

1st in MLB in wins (9 - tied)
1st in AL in K's
1st in MLB in WHIP
4th in AL in ERA

How about this guy?

Josh Beckett:

1st in ERA, but this doesn't do him credit. He's almost a FULL RUN BETTER than your guy Verlander, who is in 4th.
1st in hits allowed per 9 innings.
3rd in winning percentage (Verlander is 5th)
1st in WAR (for pitchers)

Here's the key: it's in a division where the average winning percentage is .538, and 4/5 teams are .500 or better. (AL Central has 2/5 teams better than .500, so Detroit really only has to play ONE good team)

Gotta go with C5T on this one. Beckett has good numbers and is in a legit division. AL Central doesn't scare a whole lot of people

Just a quick glance, but Verlander...in his games...has pitched against better teams than Beckett.

Beckett does pitch very well against the Yankees (twice), which is all that counts in that division.


Plus, the last 5 games Verlander has given up 4 ER averaging over 8 IP per game.
Josh has given up 8 in his last 5 games averaging 7 IP per.

Beckett had a great May. Verlander has turned it up in June.

Beckett just threw a one hitter And the hit was complete garbage too. Against a team Verlander gave up 6 ER to, btw.

If Verlander's arm doesn't fall off, he'll be the Cy Young winner. Sorry, Beckett - great numbers and a pretty compelling argument as well, but Verlander is...

...averaging almost a full inning more per game
...striking out more batters
...and perhaps even more impressively for a power pitcher, walking less batters too.

Verlander being the harder thrower is always going to give up more hits than Beckett, because that's what fireballers do.

No love for Weaver?

I got your Weaver love.

CLASSIC! Thanks, wheel.

"What are you going into the HOF for, Earl? Blowing World Series?" LOL

I'm out on the deck watching the Tigs vs Arizona on mlb tv.

Just another day at the office for Verlander. 8 IP, 0 R, 4 H, 14 K's.

In his last six starts, he's 6-0 with a 0.72 ERA. He's struck out 51 and walked six over that span, which doesn't even include his no-hitter.

Beckett tonight

J Beckett
(L, 6-3) 6.0 5 5 5 1 1 2 84-53 2.20



Yeah, give it to Verlander.

Verlander gets the nod right now for sure, but eventually he'll pitch against somebody good.

Verlanders last 5 teams pitched against: Arizona, Colorado, Cleveland, Seattle, White Sox

Becketts: Philadelphia, Tampa Bay, NY Yankees, Detroit, Cleveland

Cleveland obv a wash. Yanks are clearly the best offense in the league (and beckett's already had to pitch against them THREE TIMES already). Detroit isn't that far behind. Philly is obviously one of the best teams, on and on.

So I think Verlander will revert to human form once he hits a stretch of games against good teams. Not one game here and there.

Verlander today....



ho hum

http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=310702106

Giants, also, are one of the worst hitting teams in the nation.

And then they fired their pitching coach.

Scherzer has been pitching like crap lately.

Don't know what that has to do with Verlander.

Ho hum. Win #12. 7.2 innings, 0 ER, 9 K's, 0 BB.


And most importantly, by rule, he cannot pitch in the All Star game. Go get 'em Beckett! lol

Verlander wins #19 tonight vs Tampa Bay.
That's 7 wins in his last 7 starts.


• 1st in AL in W (19)
• 1st in AL in IP (209.2)
• 1st in AL in SO (212)
• 2nd in AL in ERA (2.28)
• 1st in AL in WHIP (0.88)
• 1st in AL in W% (.792)
• 2nd in AL in CG (4)

He's got a good chance of winning the pitching triple crown (W's, K's, ERA).
Weaver's ERA is 2.10, Verlander's is 2.28.

Since 1945, the following pitchers have won the triple crown.

So anyone want to argue about the Cy Young award? lol

Sandy Koufax (3 times) 1963, 65, 66
Steve Carlton 72
Dwight Gooden 85
Randy Johnson 2002
Jake Peavy 2007
Roger Clemens (twice) 97, 98
Pedro Martinez 99
Johan Santana 2006

Nope. Very impressed he kept it up the whole season.

verlander is the best pitcher in baseball. you honestlly feel like he could throw a no-hitter every time he steps on the mound.

Win #22 today vs Cleveland. He leads the AL in K's, Wins, ERA (triple crown) despite an "off" day of 4 ER in 6 innings (3 hits, 8K's).

Tigers are really, really playing good baseball.

They now have 5 regular players batting over .300.

Best team batting average (.292) since the all star break in the AL.
Second best team ERA (3.84) since the all star break.

braves just got humiliated in philadelphia, sheeeeesh.

Yeah, but they are safely in the playoffs.

I think Philly will win the WS with ease this year.

They certainly should.

I think a healthy Boston team could've given them a run, but it looks like that's not going to be a possibility.

The Tigers may never lose again.

Even I'm amazed, the skeptic that I am. Talk about peaking at the right time.

Ho hum. Verlander pitches 7 shutout innings. Tigs win for the 11th time in a row.

Verlander is a beast.

Tigers just scored 3 in the ninth to tie and beat the Chisox in the tenth for their 12th straight win.

They just passed the Red Sox for the 2nd best record in the AL and 3rd best record in MLB.

As a long time DETROIT fan I don't want to get my hopes up, but this is shades of 1984.

Be wary, hot septembers often lead to cold octobers

Yeah, I saw the ESPN article.
But who friggin cares? I'm enjoying the ride.
I don't think anyone can beat the Phillies, but you never know until you get there.

Just watched the Tigs win 3-0.

Verlander: 8 IP 0 Runs 3 Hits Win #24


Valverde 46th save out of 46 opps.