30 years ago unc-CHeat had a minority coach ( for one season ) and didn't have another until yesterday. This is the exact opposite of the way they present themselves....

I'm sure the following had no bearing on the hire...

LINK

Wow. 2 in school history.

When I did this story I didn't know there had been only ONE in history at the time and for ONE year.

who was it throwing around the racist label on one of the other threads? oh yeah, a ######ing unc-ch fan.

To be fair, we don't have nearly the turnover that NC State seems to have

2

really dude.

2

one only coached for a year and the other is a hispanic soccer coach in the year 2011.

you should be ashamed, but youre a unc-ch fan. embrace the inner racist.

anyone have that barry saunders article handy?







how many years did yall give doh, gut, torbush and bunting?

take that average and put it against Les, herb, Sid, MOC and Amato.

serous quextion, because i dont know the answer. Let me know what you get stats man.

What struck me about this story is a column written awhile ago by that race-baiting , Duke-hating , State-hating , whitey-hating , unc-CHeat-slobbering dipshet Barry Saunders. Back in '07 he called Duke's decision to hire Cutcliffe over Rod Broadway or Karl Dorrell "spineless." Scroll down. Anyway , he made no mention of such cowardice when unc-CHeat hired Davis. At the time , he also mentioned the Duke athletic department and " the absence of color therein. " Just another example of how a misconception about Duke ( or State! ) becomes a "fak " when a unc-CHeat apologist is tellin' ( HALF! ) the story. Maybe Duke DOES lack minority head coaches. But by reporting it ( while ignoring the shameful minority hiring record at unc-CHeat ) , the tarhole nation is presented with the fantasy that unc-CHeat isn't just as bad ( if not worse! ) than Duke or anybody else. BTW , Saunders IS a hole...

LINK

*student.

And there is a difference between competitive hiring processes (oh, look, there are also female coaches!), and calling people 'niggers' because their skin is black.

And there's also a " difference " between the truth and a lie. The " university of diversity " spiel is just that. It's certainly not true with regards to the hiring of head coaches at unc-CHeat. Barry Saunders , for one , is hypocritical and dishonest when he bashes Duke ( for example ) as being racist yet fails to mention the racism practiced in chappa heah. And it IS racism. It sure as fuk is when Duke doesn't hire a minority as a head coach. If it's racism THERE it damn sure is at unc-CHeat too.

Really dude, ffs learn sarcasm. However, those in glass houses:




















Well, you know. Hey, our only minority hire gives us the most diverse coaching staff in the triangle!

add em up and get back to me.

well just go from the 90s to be kind to you.

i know your total already.

2.

Those are your coaches now.

Lots of honkeys there. Here's the real question, big NCSU fan as you are, can you name 3 minority coaches that state has ever had? HINT: I'll even give you Sidney Lowe.

EDIT: Hey, maybe we can count that orange dude as .5 too. No way that's human.

phil ford says what you talkin about willis?




Over

Your

Head












Hint:

Barry Saunders


Hint:

N&O


Hint:

Progressive


Hint:

Sid has more than 3X time as a HC than ALL OF YOU MINORITY HIRES PUT TOGETHER.





Have you passed Stats 201 yet?

So dumb. unc has infinityX more minority head coaches then NCSU right now. INFINITY.

Also, when did it become about time served? Earlier you were talking about 2. TWO ALL TIME the jester cried.

And then he found out his own university was just as bad, if not worse. Oh, now it's about total time as a coach. Congrats to state for crippling their bball program, but hey, at least they hired a black dude!

I would like to meet the coach that's 11 down. (The blonde)

HEY NOW !

right now. lol.

oh yeah, lets not forget butch. barry didnt. 1/16 injun.

so youre up to 3 "now" right? and 2 "right now"

the oldest public university right? and youre up to three? well, 2 and 1/16. This is getting confusing.

When did Dread call anyone a 'nigger'? He was the one you called the racist. Kind of funny in the other thread you go on a wild rant and then run for the tall grass the second someone challenged you to answer a few pointed questions.

Go back to the ghetto.

When he labeled an entire socioeconomic class as 'niggers' by associating their economic status and the color of their skin to a criminal.

I honestly don't have the time to answer every inane point he makes just because he believes he should turn the tables around so as to not address his not-so-secret sentiments.

"race is a social construct"


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. And BD is right, you ran like marion jones on steroids when asked questions. (typical liberal)

Lisa Navas, the head coach of softball is Hispanic.



I'm sure she loves being called a honky.

Those questions were not inane.

She was also the head softball coach at unc for two years.

So, she's either not a minority, or your stat of "only two minority coaches evar!" is just wrong.

Ya sure about that? LEE'S stat? There's a direct link in this thread somewhere to the source of that particular stat and it didn't come from Lee. And props to Lisa for holding on to her gig at unc-CHeat for TWICE as long as the previous minority head coach did.

She's Hispanic. I asked her a couple years ago.

She was not head coach at unc. She was an assistant for 2 years.
LINK
unc's head coach has been Donna Papa for the last 25 years.


Or you're just full of shit

Sorry, took the info directly from NCSU's athletic department (but it is wrong).

If only unc had the flexibility to not care about hiring coaches who win, like NCSU, then maybe they'd be more diverse.

Most of unc's coaches have been there over 20 years and have compiled extraordinarily impressive records. Who do you want to remove? NCSU is terrible in almost every ACC program.

Yes, yes they were. Case closed.

On a related note to the thread, I am willing to bet a weeks worth of disappearance if someone can prove how all hispanics are, in fact, a race (of minority in the USA), if race is not based on a social construct.

Good luck, everyone!

Thanks for getting to the truth of the matter Chump.
unx cares about winning: therefore they hire Caucasian (i.e Aryan for those in faison) coaches.

Diversity and inclusion are topics for discussion and programs to be forced on others HOWEVER for unx hiring coaches that WIN (your word) is the main thing.

Minorities serve their role @ unx, being the 'boyz' for the 'bossman'.

Thanks for stating from the hole respective whatb I already knew.

P.S. They in fact DO have the "flexibility not to care" (your words) but what they are saying (and you as well) is that winning trumps racial equality and diversity.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

This guy is pure comedy gold.

/Grudened

NCSU rankings (in the ACC):
Baseball: 7th
Softball: 7th (of 8)
M Tennis: 11th
W Tennis: 7th
M Basketball: 10th
W Basketball: 10th
Wrestling: 5th (of 6)
Swimming and Diving men: 4th
Swimming and Diving women: 5th
Football: 4th
Volleyball: 11th
Mens Soccer: 8th (of 9)
Womens Soccer: 10th (of 11)

I mean, holy shit.

Not one finish in the top 3. 7 finishes (out of 13 sports!) in the bottom 3. Outside of swimming, ONE finish in the top HALF of the league.

Here's the best part. Of those 13 sports in which NCSU competes (in ACC play). unc is ranked ahead of NCSU is 12. 12 of 13. And you bunch of retards are commenting on how we should handle our coaching staff?

Performance on the field =/= or correlate to dibersity.

So is it standings now? Because I sorta remember the football team winning and the baseball team recently swept unc. So now it's NOT head to head but standings? Ok.

unc hired a new cross country coach last year.
a new swim coach 4 years ago.
wrestling, 7 years ago.
lacrosse, 3 years ago
golf, 2 years ago
rowing, 8 years ago
women's tennis, 8 years ago
You've had several basketball and football coaches recently.


And Dorrance for one should have been removed. But that extraordinarily impressive record kept him there despite the fact that he STILL has to attend sensitivity training.

Thank you for further reinforcing the fact that unx defers to Aryan coaching to WIN because winning is more important than "diversity"!

This is all going down in the book. Give me some more.....

I don't think anyone said they are a "race".

La Raza!

In fact, you just proved that 'being hispanic' is a social construct, and nothing to do with one's biological factors. I appreciate it.

edit: quick google search seems like there are a lot of academic articles that talk about 'la raza' being a social construct. yay!

Some one thinks they are thus the term...whether or not you recognize it or not.

Kinda like the Lumbee Indians.....

And NCSU defers to Aryan coaching to lose. See first page.



That's fine Lee. Were there any minority candidates for any of those jobs? I don't mean at unc. I mean in the USA. How many minorities are coaching those positions in America?

Read: "Can't answer without putting my own hypocrisy on display for all to see"

Show us the inaneness please. Those questions were very pointed. You just don't want to answer them. You'd rather throw toss spitballs and runaway or change the direction of the conversation. That's all you've done in any thread

Kinda the point , ain't it? While unc-CHeat's coaches have been , as you claim , " extraordinarily impressive " , we'll never know if a minority head coach wouldn't have been just as " extraordinarily impressive " or not. unc-CHeat , basically , never hired one. Dollars to doughnuts , those coaches with the longest tenures didn't interview against minorities either. I feel pretty confident in assuming that unc-CHeat didn't exactly bring in a melting pot of candidates when making those hires. THAT ( and unc-CHeat's misleading " university of diversity " spiel ) is what this is all about.

Hurray! You're totally getting it. Race is a social construct not because people hundreds and thousands of years ago were able to genetically categorize those with high or low melanin, but because people have made claims to what they have seen similar people of skin color do in their cultures. Therefore, race is a social construct because society forces us to perceive skin color as a way to define someone's inherit culture, when it is absolutely not the case.

Lumbee Indians are an EXACT example of a race based on a social construct because we all know they are not 100% descendants of humans evolved from thousands of years of migration.

If race is a " social construct " who imposed it? And why? I guarandamtee you no white came up with " La Raza" just like no white created " Society of Black Engineers".

Then answer some of the questions on the political thread. Then answer why Europe discovered Africa and not the other way around. Or why, even with hundreds of years of a head start Africa stagnated while Europe thrived. Egypt was the last great African Empire and they (now) consider themselves Muslim not African.

No, the questions sucked. He is as delusional about the real world as they come. Especially considering the comparison of NOLA to a "war-zone" when there wasn't a single solid piece of evidence that suggested anyone was going to fight the US military or each other for anything more than simple survival.



What a war-zone!

Read: sniff sniff "T-t-they're t-t-too hard"

Every kind of question that exposes lib hypocrisy sucks to you people. Keep tossing spitballs, squirt

We'll also never know if NCSU might not have won a championship in the last 5 years if they didn't hire Sid, either. Just because "we'll never know" doesn't really make it a good point, does it? Maybe if Duke had hired a black guy instead of Coach K Duke would have 10 championships.

And you're probably right, they probably didn't interview against minorities. For one, it's taken minority coaches a long time to get to the level where they have enough experience to be interviewed. Hell, look at D-I football. 119 jobs, 6 black coaches. One hispanic coach. Duke's never had a minority football coach. Neither has State. Neither has unc.

And where is this University of diversity shit coming from anyways? LINK?

http://reason.com/archives/2005/12/01/they...copters-dont-th

Sorry junior, they were shooting. And yes, if you've ever been to a war zone, or even one years later, NOLA, sadly, resembled one.

Stay in your own little world with your corner office and campus permit. You're safer there.

Huh? Your link debunks claims of violence in NO

Yeah , it does. Look , you've seen first-hand how Duke and State are often portrayed. Duke = white , elitist , nerds ( nerds ALWAYS = white . Why is that? Hmmm... ) and State = white , rednecks. Both are misleading characterizations made moreso by a unc-CHeat-dominated press that has managed to spread that " gospel " nationwide. Meanwhile , the notion that unc-CHeat and chappa heah are bastions of racial tolerance , opportunity and , yes , diversity is often promoted as the exact opposite of the other 2 schools. Bull and shet , that's all I'm sayin' and that's why I started the thread.


unc.edu

Obviously , the phrase ( University of Diversity ) isn't used but , clearly , this mission statement of sorts doesn't apply to staff....not the athletic one anyway. Oh yeah , and fuk Barry Saunders and others just like 'im. His was the first name that came to me when I read the initial story. Duke is racist and spineless for not hiring a black head coach and unc-CHeat was never put under that microscope when they failed to hire Rod Broadway ( an alum , btw ) or any other minority. Did unc-CHeat even INTERVIEW a brother? Duke looked at 2. One of which , Karl Dorrell , would've had the job if Cut hadn't been so impressive in his interviews. Oh yeah. Bomani Jones ( another hole. ) Fuk him too.

LINK??? Jesus, where is this shit coming from? Your head?

First of all, if you want to get into stereotypes, nobody says NCSU is white. Just dumb, or rednecks.

And nobody says that Duke is all white (except the basketball team). Usually the stereotypes you hear are they're all Asians, actually. Or all from New Jersey.



Really. Tell me more.



Let's see, NCSU statement (hell, they have a whole subsite dedicated to faculty diversity located here:

"By definition, NC State reflects diversity because it comprises a community of individuals from varied backgrounds and demographic categories; it encourages, accepts, and values a diversity of people and ideas; it seeks to promote an environment where equity, respect and understanding represent the norm in the campus climate and; it seeks to prepare entrepreneurs who are effective citizens of a global community."

Guess that doesn't apply to the athletic ranks.

Or Duke:

"I can imagine an ideal university, a place where students, employees and scholars come together from different continents and states, different religions and political viewpoints, different races and classes."

Again, same as unc.

EDIT: Link, how could I forget. www.diversity.duke.edu

Read down. There were people arrested for firing while helicopters went by. As bad as NO was, (gang rape, pillaging, violence), the last thing that poor city needed was more bad press.

And yes, I was in 1st Army. Google THAT.

Time to run this thread into the ground!

What do you mean 'who imposed it'? It's a commonly held belief among a society. That's the definition of a social construct. Thousands of years of reinforced cultural beliefs about skin color to easily discern someone's disposition on ideas or other things.

AHAHAHAHA Europe "discovered" Africa?!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH

My, my, how uneducated you really, truly are. Africa has had trading lines with Greece and Italy for thousands of years. In fact, the ships of Greece were developed from timbers of North African nations. How about the fact that most of Africa has been self-sustaining prior to the first period of Industrialization?

Let me school you on the African 'stagnation', too. Crops grown for African 'tribes' were almost ALWAYS shared settlements. They rotated crops in the same way European countries did prior to modern fertilizer and agriculture (and still exists, too). It wasn't until European colonies came in and reinforced new ideas like absolute property and non-tribal boundaries did Africa become extremely divided based on foreign imposed lines. This caused class warfare. See Rwanda. See Sudan. Racism among themselves caused myriad of problems, when prior it was because of one's wealth and lineage.

Egyptians do not consider themselves a Muslim nation, they consider themselves an arabic nation. Intelligent people know the difference. Even the White House has stood by these same sentiments when handling foreign affairs: (if you can read, see: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archiv...-turmoil/70646/ )









HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


What kind of world do I live in again? What was that?





Thank you thank you thank you for linking to that article.

Way to cave to FOX New's biased coverage of Katrina/NOLA.


edit: Oh, I forgot to add something else..

FACE.