When he was stomping around the mound I just took it for frustration. His yapping at the 3rd base coach was a little over the top, but again I disregarded it as frustration. After the game the sports guy from the ABC affilliate in Raleigh asked him what the confrontation was about and Carignan called the Beavers cowards and added they play a cowardly brand of baseball. Didn't agree with their style of baseball. He said it was not baseball.

What JACKASS!!!!

Click on Mark Armstrong's Post Game Video. Carnigan's reaction is about 35 seconds in to the video:

Carnigan is an ASS

Who the fuck is Carnigan? Geez.

Also, clearly it could be frustration built up from losing his house to a fire and losing two consecutive world series titles as a runner-up.

If it you were you and me who had gone through everyone he has gone through in the last month, believe me, I'd probably be using words harsher than "coward" for whatever was pissing me off at the moment.

He is your typical TarHole...a whiney and arrogant sore loser who will get his a$$ handed to him in the minors with that kind of attitude. What is even more hillarious is that this assclown played right into OSU's hands. They purposely slowed the game down and got into Carnigan's head. It is a baseball strategy. The TarHoles used it all season long in the batter's box against opposing pitchers. It is apparent that Carnigan not only is a sore loser the dumbsa$$ doesn't even understand baseball or it strategies.




Here comes the typical TarHole reasoning to excuse this kind of attitude.

A Hole embarrasses himself on a national stage and then calls the opposition-the ones that handed him his behind-cowards. Anyone surprised? It's a tradition in Chapel Hill. Dean Smith gets tossed out of the Final Four and then proceeds to trash the ref. Mak makes false racial allegations after losing a Final Four game. Roy regularly tosses his whole team under the bus after a loss. Mike NiFong makes false allegations and promises. It's the same old same old

Matt Christiansen...
Christian Laettner...
Johnny Dawkins...
Gerald Henderson...

Did you even watch the CWS dude? Carignan dominated OSU. It was his teammates that got shelled

No reason for him to be making excuses, he pitched his heart out.

Oh yeah, so much for getting into his head

Now after fully watching that video, how can you say he was being an ass? All he said was that he didn't like how they played baseball. That's true for a LOT of players about a lot of different teams. Just because you don't enjoy one style doesn't make you an ass. This is a ridiculous thread, clearly you were searching through news articles with your obsession with the Tar Heels looking for something like this and sorry, the shit still ain't sticking to the wall.

Better idea, how about ol andrew just sackup and say, "yeah we got beat by the better team. Our hats off to them."

"Cowardly"? This isn't boxing for crying out loud, it's baseball. Maybe in ol andrew's mind "unx won the series," but out here in the real world, the trophy went to OREGON STATE.

5tymechump, you are such a piss-ant, by your very own words you tell us why Carigan was being a poor sport!
If you are correct then why didn't he call out his own team-mates instead of OSU?

OSU played the style they had to play to win, and they did it to perfection!



BTW, I thought you were supposed to stay gone for a week?

Weak. If it's come to that lame-azzed response,I should just link this.

You're kiddin',right? That has got to be one of the more egregious tarhole "spin jobs" I've read on here in awhile and that's sayin' something. Dude,he called them "cowardly." Re-watch the vid. Look at his expression. Hell,he was holdin' back. I don't know anything about the guy but he acted like a sore-effn-loser that should've been congratulating his opponent rather than denigrating them. "Cowardly." That doesn't leave alot of room for interpretation. Losing wif klass,tarhole-style.

Carnignan pitched 3 2/3 innings vs OSU, 4 hits, 2 runs, 3 walks. By my calculations that's an ERA of about 5.00 and an OBP of .389. Yeah, he was outstanding.

As for OSU playing "coward baseball". What does that mean?

Scoring more runs, getting more hits, hitting more home runs, striking out less and committing less errors?

If I recall some of the runs charged to him were given up by the next pitcher. But yes, I suppose those still count.

I think what he meant was doing things like calling timeout right before the pitcher goes into his windups, intentionally getting hit by pitches, stealing signs, stuff like that.

It's very effective baseball, as was A-Rod's yelling "HA" or "MINE" at that 3rd basemen in Toronto. Sure there is no rule against it, but baseball is very funny in it's "unwritten rules". (For example, stealing signs from second base is 'okay', but a batter turning around and watching the catcher give signs is taboo even though the rules don't prohibit this.)

Sounds to me like holes were being careless with their signs. Cover it up with the glove or change them up. Don't whine and cry because the other team was more prepared and all around better. I'm surprised we haven't heard the classic battle cry of the basketball team's fans - it was the UMPS!

stupid thread...you clowns are this desperate in the fvcking middle of summer??



Oh, and doggie, miss G. is one of yours

Wow if Carrigan was so great... mmm, I thought this was team sport.. where were the team mates??, oh, making errors or not producing.. (that is something I wish all Tarheels would do, not produce).. Well at least their baseball team is a mirror of the basketball.. get there, then NOT produce when its needed the most.. then complain on the other team or officiating or some kinda heart ache.. I am sorry his house burned down, but if he isn't 100% ready to go mentally why put him in?, if he shuts them down, he is the best thang since sliced bread, but if he "f's" it up, don't let it be a crutch. Baseball is 90% mental, and the OSU ball team got in the Heels heads by doing what they needed to, to WIN. FOX sent a player home when he shouldn't, Think about this, Benji Johnson in the opening game hit 2 doubles, PH against Rice hit a single and then the day before PH hit a homer against the Beavers ace.. DIDN'T see him hit once in the final game.. WHY? Why in the world would fox, not let a kid batting 1000 not hit? WHY? FOX LIKE ROY TOY choked in his coaching abilities to prepare his team, and his staff to be ready for the final. BACK to BACK for the BEAVERS and guess WHAT BACK TO BACK for the HEELS to loose to them!! SO, What was it CarolinaBUTTrolls, over looked? Let them win?? Bottom line is the #3 team in the nation, must have been over rated, and DON'T have the talent, don't go there, talent in a series would have shown up.. cause they got their asses handed to them from a TEAM that didn't even have a 500 record in their own conference, shouldn't have made the tourney, but won it!! Carolina from the start of the tourney had lived on last minute and come from behind wins, finally caught up with them! When I saw Carrigan walk off and start lipping, I was thinking this may spark or motivate his team, but really looking at it, it was frustration and soreness of a looser!

My brain just exploded.

Paragraph and sentence structure be damned - he's right.

Your agreement basically means he's a retard.

No - it means he's dead on about the holes sucking and choking in the CWS and your boy being a petty, whiny, classless loser.

Yeah, okay dork. We suck for making it to the CWS for the second year in a row.

If that makes you feel better about yourself, then that's fine with me.

And you gotta love it when the abcers/moodookies around here start talking about CLASS. LMAO

Awww poor wittle stwoolie - all upset he doesn't get to hang a banner for the 2nd year in a row. You can hang the we are the best chokers and poor sports banner.

"Bottom line is the #3 team in the nation, must have been over rated, and DON'T have the talent, don't go there, talent in a series would have shown up.. cause they got their asses handed to them from a TEAM that didn't even have a 500 record in their own conference, shouldn't have made the tourney, but won it!!"


This just in folks, the #3 team in the nation MUST be overrated because they only finished SECOND in the nation!

/retard logik

unc did well to get to the finals. They lost. Carnigan said OSU "played cowardly baseball".
Amazing that anyone would justify this kind of comment after a loss.

Lee, any longtime follower of baseball will tell you that you can play improper baseball while still being within the rules. How did you feel about the A-Rod fiasco in Toronto?

Carignan was complaining about OSU slowing down the game by stepping out of the box and the pitchers stepping off the rubber. This has nothing to do with calling "I got it" or stealing signals. OSU used a tactic to throw off the unc players and it worked. Carigan was just whining.

Amazing that you think ARod cheated when James Worthy won you a NC back in 82 doing the exact same thing.

I never said A-Rod cheated. What he did was perfectly within the rules. So is stealing signs and as I said, looking back at the catcher to see where he is setting up. So is deliberately abusing the time out ability in order to slow down a pitcher, or repeatedly going to the mound during an at-bat to screw up a hitter's rhythm. These are all legal. They are however 'banned' in the unwritten rules of baseball, as are MANY MANY other activities (watching a home run off the bat, for example, or not running out a groundball to first base). Steroids is cheating. There is a BIG difference there.

By the way, as tempting as the analogy is between baseball and basketball is, it doesn't work. Calling for the ball in basketball means "Hey, give me the ball." Calling for the ball in baseball is a means of avoiding a collision with a fellow fielder and a means of injury prevention (See Johnny Damon and Damien Jackson). That's the big difference. I've never heard of basketball players having their careers ended because someone couldn't hear a proper call for the ball, this has happened several times in baseball. If you are calling for a ball in basketball, ALL you are doing is trying to gain an advantage. In baseball, you are gaining an advantage at the risk of possibly permanently injuring your opponent. Please don't overlook the difference there and assume that they are the same.

Besides, this is all assuming Carolina wouldn't have won that game regardless.

Stepping off the mound repeatedly or visiting the mound or stepping out of the batter's box over and over are not some of "baseball's unwritten rules". Annoying as hell..maybe. Sorta like Nomar Garciaparra's routine. But not the same as staring down a home run or showing up an opponent in other ways.

fyi, the umpire can refuse to call timeout for a batter if he thinks the batter is abusing the rule.

This is where we're going to take a page out of the abcer handbook to whine about the officials claiming to be VICTIMS! all due to bias.

Thanks, abcers, for revolutionizing how to make excuses.

I didn't watch much of the game, but I didn't notice OSU slowing down the game.

Is there any record of anyone else writing or commenting about OSU's tactics?


Even if they were playing "cowardly", Carignan should not have said those words publicly. It shows a lack of class and disrespect.


What's so funny is unc fans (and at least on baseball player) whining about "coward ball" when it was unc that INVENTED coward ball. Remember the "four corners" offense?

PWND.

/thread

From what I watched, the announcers were talking about how OSU would take forever getting the pitch call to the catcher which made it difficult for the hitter.

But whatever it doesn't matter. They won, we lost. We had a great year.

I'm pretty sure any team in the country, aside from OSU of course, would easily trade positions with UNC: making it to the CWS 2 years in a row.

You abcers dipshits can cry choke all you want. You can't choke if you suck which is exactly why you losers don't have to worry about it.



So what's the company line for today, Capt IF? Did Dean invent the Four Corners offense or not?

No. He just claimed to have invented it. He was the first to abuse it, though...you know, violating one of those unwritten rules and going against the spirit of the game.

Okay, thanks Lee. I hate Carolina now.

Finally.

Lee just painted all 4 corners of Stoolie's face with that one. SPLAT! SPLAT! SPLAT! SPLAT!

Fine, straw. I promise that from now on I'll try to respond to more of your posts. This cry of help is no longer necessary.

We didn't suck at baseball this year or last.

I tell you what, it has to be harder on you holes to lose it this year than last given OSU's record and the experience you had coming in.
Nevertheless you had a great year and congrats.

(that 4 corners aspect of any hole crying about slowing down a game is laughable!lol)

Again, we are comparing apples to oranges here between basketball and baseball. Wearing the clock down in basketball (and football, and soccer, and any other sport with a clock) carries a distinct advantage because it limits your opponents opportunities to score, and therefore changes how your opponent has to play. It carries a PHYSICAL advantage that you have to EARN to use (namely, get the lead and have it late in the game)

Repeatedly calling timeout in a baseball game carries no advantage except for being a nuisance. And yes, the umpire could have not granted the timeouts. They also could have stopped all of the teams on the CWS (including UNC) from intentionally getting hit by pitches to reach base. They did not.

The games of basketball and baseball are in no way even remotely similar.

Yep. A nusiance to your opponent that throws them off their game. It disrupted the flow of the game and affected unc's performance. VERY similar to the 4 corners.

I agree with you about the HBP's. That extra inning game between UC-Irvine and (forgot the other team) was ridiculous. I wanted to fire a fastball at that kid from UCI that was hit 3 times.

All that said, Carignan is still a loudmouthed sore loser.

1. I don't think UNC "choked". I'm very impressed they made the finals. OSU was clearly the better team.

2. The player whining about "coward ball" should embarrass the Holes. It shows a lack of class by the player. You can be disappointed by the loss and still act grownup about it. Try giving credit to the winning team next time, kid.

3. The fact UNC fans here attempt to take up for the kid is not surprising

4. I disagree with "4 Corners = Coward Ball" and have stated so here in the past. While some teams used it to kill the clock, UNC didn't. They used the offense to spread the court and create one on one opportunites for quick, mobile players like Ford, Previs, O'Koren, etc. If the other team chose to lay back instead of manning up you can't blame UNC for it. UNC tried to score in this offense.

The solution to this for those who don't want to throw at the chin is to throw right at the knees.

Maybe the kids are tough enough to take a fastball off the back or arm, but I bet they'd be a little more mobile out of the box if the ball was headed for their kneecap.

It's still being a pussy. Don't deny that.

Throwing the other team off is "being a pussy" but bawling after you lose is not

Well if it's just a 'nuisance' and not an 'earned' advantage then WTFreak are you guys even bringing it up?!

Think about it: "Well we would have won if those beavers weren't being such a nuisance."


Then you wonder why us ABCers make fun of you guys and your "must defend" attitude.

wopacker ends the thread

Regardless of how you feel about the basketball/baseball comparisons,they are BESIDE the point. The topic of this thread is about how a unx'er exhibited "klass" following a loss. He acted like a total preck yet here we are,3 pages in,and not one of the holes has merely conceded that. Typical.

Come on.....you could do a little better. The guy needs a little boost of self-esteem.

A Tar Hole whining. Which part of this surprises any of you?

Why do you think it's Carowhina?

Another "walmart" loser gets on camera and decides to be a pu$$y. Gay boy can always call 2fer and get a job climbing those power poles.

More on Carignan from the OSU boards..




And this gem


link

More(a Wolfpacker got 'em started....)




http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=182#S=182&a...05&T=659799

And this should be surprising?

More proof that a UNC loss is bigger for A&M fans than their own team winning.