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PhilFordsVehicle
Who has disappointed more than him??

I know Washington and Arizona have definitely not lived up to expectations, but what single player has been more disappointing? Preseason POY candidate and he can't make layups, he whines and bitches constantly, and he can't handle the pressure of being the go-to guy. I bet dook fans are hoping he leaves.
unc_craw
not really a dissapointment. everybody knows he sucked. and how many travels did he get away with tonight oh my gosh. even vitale mentioned it.
PhilFordsVehicle
QUOTE(unc_craw @ Feb 28 2007, 11:20 PM) *

not really a dissapointment. everybody knows he sucked. and how many travels did he get away with tonight oh my gosh. even vitale mentioned it.

I didn't see much of the game, but he definitely gets away with quite a bit (yes, so does Hansbrough).

I actually thought he would be good this year. Oh well.
carolinarolls
joshee is soft. He came in soft and has only gotten softer in the face of added responsibility. He went on a little run for a game or two against some fairly weak post opposition but when he gets challenged, he definitely begins to look for the pass. This, incidently, is why Zoubek will never amount to anything but a clumsy screaming foul machine....because of the poor examples in front of him.

He is not going to get any better IMO. I don't think he wants to improve. His attitude strikes me as someone who thinks he has all the pieces already. I bet he is stubborn as shit in practice. He has not improved from last season. Unless he can develop into a PG with all those passing skills, he's done after dooke.

Tyler is in the same boat for different reasons. Tyler has the will and will not give up, but his size and innability(yes it has gotten better) to step outside is gonna hurt him. The fact that he can make free throws and run the floor will get him some PT against the trees though, and if he develops that 15-17 foot range over the next two seasons(yes I think he graduates) he could be a serviceable journeyman and carve out a good career. Joshee just does not have the heart of a winner or a team player. He has passion but it seems self-serving to me.

PhilFordsVehicle
QUOTE(carolinarolls @ Mar 1 2007, 12:03 AM) *

Joshee just does not have the heart of a winner or a team player. He has passion but it seems self-serving to me.

Hard to argue with that.
tarheelz022
There are no two ways about it...he's absolutely horrid. The only reason he gets PT is because Zoubek is a ######ing woman.

Josh, watch out for that bus!!

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KRZ4DUKE
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DevilDJ
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I bet DUKE fans are hoping he leaves.

I don't.I just wish he would unpack and put the NBA thing on the back burner.He's not ready but he has the skills to be a very good player.In some ways he already is.Good ball-handler/passer/decent rebounder/pretty athletic for a white boy.On the downside,he's got no mid-range shot to speak of and he's got some growing up to do.The "self-serving" comment is bs.He just turned 20...today.Sorry he ain't 35 years old like hansjob.Like I said,he's gotta mature.That's what teenagers do,no?

lebo421
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He just turned 20...today.


That explains why he played like he was hungover. Wait, he's played like this all year.
carolinarolls
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Sorry he ain't 35 years old like hansjob.


me too, at 35 his career will be looong over and we need a log-armed drive thru attendant at the local BBQ joint. The mirrors on my vehicle stick out pretty far and sometimes its tough to reach breakfast with that little short mexican bitch that is working there now.
blueduke
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Who has disappointed more than him??


That Tick Tock Juggernaut known as UNC. Pre season #1 in most polls and pre season #2 at worst and now you're hoping for a Sweet Sixteen
PhilFordsVehicle
QUOTE(blueduke @ Mar 2 2007, 04:54 PM) *

Pre season #1 in most polls

BULLSHIT.
http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/preview/2006/index.htm
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/rankingsinde...seasonYear=2007
http://phogblog.com/2006/10/23/a-little-pr...nkings-roundup/


The biggest question surrounding UNC was whether or not Roy could manage all the talent on one team. UNC was ranked #2 in the preseason because everyone figured he would. A few bumps in the road were expected, the last two losses were the only two that put us over the "young team" losses that we were expected to have. Expectations were obviously too high, and they "costed" us down the stretch laugh.gif

Josh, on the other hand, is showing no signs of being anything but average... and I'm not even concerned about him coming back next year. In fact, I HOPE he doesn't go pro.
blueduke
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Expectations were obviously too high, and they "costed" us down the stretch laugh.gif


What "costed" (I know what you're referring to just in case you think I didn't) you down the stretch is you're tanking. Final Four bound to "Gee wouldn't it be great if we cracked the Sweet Sixteen"? You didn't hear the Duke people bailing this quick last year. How many broken legs have come from the present "Bandwagon Bail"?
carolinarolls
QUOTE(blueduke @ Mar 2 2007, 05:13 PM) *

What "costed" (I know what you're referring to just in case you think I didn't) you down the stretch is you're tanking. Final Four bound to "Gee wouldn't it be great if we cracked the Sweet Sixteen"? You didn't hear the Duke people bailing this quick last year. How many broken legs have come from the present "Bandwagon Bail"?


why would dooke fanz be bailing at this point last season?

damn you are dumb

The broken legs from bailing the bandwagon are, and I guarantee this, the same legs that are just now heeling from the sprained ankles, scraped knees and various abrasions acquired from climbing(crowding) on it just 3 months ago. I have seen more late 90's vintage UNC ball caps, that have obviously been dusted off just prior to exiting the house, this season than ever before. But am I supposed to abandon my team because of those morons????

I hate that part of the game but if you want to talk sports blue, the fans that are not present during the game are not part of it at all. Stay on topic and talk about your boy, joshee instead of wimping out and taking the path of least resistance by attacking a fairweather UNC fan. Gotdamnit, how common is that? Bullshit fans are everywhere you know. And they wear all shades of blue.
blueduke
I'm sensing a bitter CarolinaRolls. Maybe next year!!!!!! Or maybe not

Tick tock
carolinarolls
I am not bitter. I am a fan. We are at our losest point at a terrible time.

It does not mean that we are a bad team an now incapable of winning.

Obviously I don't take it as serious as you may. And that says a ton becaue I think I have some serious issues when it comes to college basketball.
blueduke
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why would dooke fanz be bailing at this point last season?


Duke went into the ACC tourney on a two game losing streak. Nobody pointed fingers at K. Nobody said the other team "couldn't miss". Nobody bailed and nobody whined. Why? ACC regular season is just bullsh!t anyway. Just gives fans an opportunity to razz the other teams before the real ACC season starts.
NCarolina
I think Glen Davis and LSU are the biggest dissapointments by far. LSU was preseason top 10 and now might not make the NCAAs, and Glen Davis would have been a first rounder if he had left last year, and now probably wont get drafted.
carolinarolls
QUOTE(blueduke @ Mar 2 2007, 05:47 PM) *

Duke went into the ACC tourney on a two game losing streak. Nobody pointed fingers at K. Nobody said the other team "couldn't miss". Nobody bailed and nobody whined. Why? ACC regular season is just bullsh!t anyway. Just gives fans an opportunity to razz the other teams before the real ACC season starts.


You are an idiot...the REAL ACC season...a 4 day tournament?????


I asked "at this point" we are not entering the ACC tourney this weekend blue. There is still one more game to play. State shooting the lights out is not an excuse, its a fact. MD and GT out-muscling, out-rebounding and also shooting a high, not as high, but very high percentage is not an excuse, its also a fact.

But, to correct you yet again, there were plenty of whiners and bandwagon jumpers after Tyler dominated shelDONE for the 2nd straight game, JJ was shut down and ineffective against Ginyard, Miller and co. for the 2nd straight game, Tyler busted a 3 in Shel's face and the 97% depleted defending national champions waxed that dark bloo ass in derm on Senior night.

Plenty of whining was going on. Plenty of excuse making was going on when a team with two senior All Americans did not reach the final four...again.

Do not try to make your fanbase seem more informed, knowledgeable and BBall savvy. The only reason there are less dooke bball fan losers than there are UNC bball loser fans is because there are simply more Carolina fans. The % seems about the same to me. Your corp is only looking stronger this year because all the fat bitches that were in love with JJ the poet have all either grown up a little or bought a Magic jersey and forgotten all about the bloodevils.....lucky break for ya there.




blueduke
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You are an idiot...the REAL ACC season...a 4 day tournament?????


1. THAT's who's crowned ACC CHAMPION

2. You could go 0-16 during regular season and win the tourney and get the AUTOMATIB BID to the NCAA. Yeah regular season is real important. Really meant alot to 0-16 didn't it?

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But, to correct you yet again, there were plenty of whiners and bandwagon jumpers after Tyler dominated shelDONE for the 2nd straight game, JJ was shut down and ineffective against Ginyard, Miller and co. for the 2nd straight game, Tyler busted a 3 in Shel's face and the 97% depleted defending national champions waxed that dark bloo ass in derm on Senior night.

Plenty of whining was going on. Plenty of excuse making was going on when a team with two senior All Americans did not reach the final four...again.


Typical Hole garbage. They whine, point fingers, make excuses, and then claim someone else was doing it. hell we came straight out and said Duke choked, crybaby.
carolinarolls
QUOTE(blueduke @ Mar 2 2007, 06:57 PM) *

1. THAT's who's crowned ACC CHAMPION

2. You could go 0-16 during regular season and win the tourney and get the AUTOMATIB BID to the NCAA. Yeah regular season is real important. Really meant alot to 0-16 didn't it?
Typical Hole garbage. They whine, point fingers, make excuses, and then claim someone else was doing it. hell we came straight out and said Duke choked, crybaby.



did you just use the word garbage?

I can't believe I was even curious of your response. Truly garbage indeed.

and for the record they did not choke, they got beat. And, what happens on this landg=fill of a website is nnowhere close to the general consensus of what actually went on. You need to get out more.

Have a wuuusuckuuunderful weekend bluedooke
blueduke
QUOTE(carolinarolls @ Mar 2 2007, 07:04 PM) *

did you just use the word garbage?

I can't believe I was even curious of your response. Truly garbage indeed.

and for the record they did not choke, they got beat. And, what happens on this landg=fill of a website is nnowhere close to the general consensus of what actually went on. You need to get out more.

Have a wuuusuckuuunderful weekend bluedooke


Read: I'm pissed. I'm unraveling. What was once a season of tick tocks and Final Four expectations has turned into "Wait till next year.......we hope" and bitterness toward our coach. This was supposed to be our time, dammit!!!!!!!!!! This was supposed to be our year to dominate the conference!!!!!!!!!. Instead the powerful wahoos have inside track for the regualr season title we cherish so much and we always suck in the tournament. Sh!t!!!!!!!!!! How the fek could this have happened?!?!? Duke's gonna be loaded next year and we have players ready to bolt for the pros!!!!!! Where's my gun? Fek
PhilFordsVehicle
QUOTE(blueduke @ Mar 2 2007, 07:14 PM) *

Read: I'm pissed. I'm unraveling. What was once a season of tick tocks and Final Four expectations has turned into "Wait till next year.......we hope" and bitterness toward our coach. This was supposed to be our time, dammit!!!!!!!!!! This was supposed to be our year to dominate the conference!!!!!!!!!. Instead the powerful wahoos have inside track for the regualr season title we cherish so much and we always suck in the tournament. Sh!t!!!!!!!!!! How the fek could this have happened?!?!? Duke's gonna be loaded next year and we have players ready to bolt for the pros!!!!!! Where's my gun? Fek

LOL. Yeah, this was our chance. we really blew it!!!


Please, tool. UNC has dominated the ACC for YEARS. Oh, right... you only remember the years 99-03.

FYI we won a national championship less than 2 years ago, faggot rolleyes.gif
Dread
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YI we won a national championship less than 2 years ago,


Much like a mutual fund, past performance is no indication of future returns.
PhilFordsVehicle
QUOTE(Dread @ Mar 2 2007, 09:45 PM) *

Much like a mutual fund, past performance is no indication of future returns.

UNC will win 2 more before NCSU wins another. Take that shit to the bank.
blueduke
QUOTE(PhilFordsVehicle @ Mar 2 2007, 09:46 PM) *

UNC will win 2 more before NCSU wins another. Take that shit to the bank.


Considering your lousy success with gambling I'm starting to wonder if you're not MJ. Nah. You honored your bet. MJ welches

9:46 pm on a Friday night and an unmarried Moped is online. Can you say loser? Fag?
DevilDJ
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UNC has dominated the ACC for YEARS. Oh, right... you only remember the years 99-03.

Ya sure 'bout that?Check the numbers on ACC Titles as they relate to Duke/unx.You referenced a 5 year period.Yes,Duke had some success in that span.They also had 9 conference crowns prior to the years you listed.Seems like Duke has done their share of "dominating" too and it covers a wider time frame than the one you quoted.
PhilFordsVehicle
QUOTE(blueduke @ Mar 2 2007, 10:34 PM) *

Considering your lousy success with gambling I'm starting to wonder if you're not MJ. Nah. You honored your bet. MJ weclhes.

9:46 pm on a Friday night and an unmarried Moped is online. Can you say loser? Fag?

LOL. I'm visiting my parents. I'm sure one of you tools can see that my IP right now is located in Durham.


BTW Dj I didn't say dook hasn't won their fair share... I was laughing at blukkake making it seem as if we're going to go back to the Doh years if we don't win the ACC this season, like there's some sort of time frame dook is giving us. I figured he was referring to dook's 8 out of the last 9 titles. News flash- Doh's gone, we have a steady coaching situation now and if I had to guess I'd say you won't go on another streak like that for a LONG time.
loweblows
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QUOTE(Dread @ Mar 2 2007, 09:45 PM) *

Much like a mutual fund, past performance is no indication of future returns.

True dread when's the last time state won a championship in anything, hell you guys had a parade for a fourth place finish in football. Gezz you suck. tongue.gif

QUOTE(DevilDJ @ Mar 3 2007, 01:50 AM) *

Ya sure 'bout that?Check the numbers on ACC Titles as they relate to Duke/unx.You referenced a 5 year period.Yes,Duke had some success in that span.They also had 9 conference crowns prior to the years you listed.Seems like Duke has done their share of "dominating" too and it covers a wider time frame than the one you quoted.

Hey retard dook 14 Your daddy 16. Go HEELS beat dook again.
blueduke
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News flash- Doh's gone, we have a steady coaching situation now and if I had to guess I'd say you won't go on another streak like that for a LONG time.


To go on "another streak" the current one has to be broken first
DevilDJ
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Hey retard DUKE 14 Your daddy 16.

I thought Duke had 1 more ACC Title than unx did.If not,my bad.My point is STILL valid.A 16 to 14 edge is hardly "dominating.""Retard,"indeed.
PhilFordsVehicle
dook does indeed have 1 more than UNC. its actually the one historically significant statistic they lead UNC in, IIRC.
DevilDJ
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DUKE does indeed have 1 more than UNC. its actually the one historically significant statistic they lead UNC in, IIRC.

loweblows offers wrong info and gets made to look like a dumbazz?Say it ain't so!
PhilFordsVehicle
bump

mcroberts- 3-7 FG, 3-6 FT, 9 pts, 10 reb, 2 ast, 6 TO, 5 fouls

the stat sheet stuffer shows up big again
lebo421
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Much like a mutual fund, past performance is no indication of future returns.


And yet you fags STILL constantly reference 8-20. Too fekking funny.
Lee Corso
I'll try to be objective here....

McRob has the disadvantage of having nobody to get him the ball inside. I won't go into my opinion of Paulus, I think it is well documented. McRob's grabs are mostly on the perimiter. Now it IS his fault that he doesn't take players like Hansbro to the hoop off the dribble. He always picks up his dribble which must drive Duke fans nuts. Maybe the fact that Wright is usually under the basket may have something to do with his decision. I don't know.
I've said all season that Duke needs to fire their strength and conditioning coach. McRob with another 20 lbs of muscle will be deadly. Hopefully Scheyer can find some gym instruction, too. Paulus looks like and old man out there.
That said, I think Duke will make a run in the tourney. And I think Maryland will win it.
PhilFordsVehicle
QUOTE(Lee Corso @ Mar 4 2007, 09:01 PM) *

I'll try to be objective here....

McRob has the disadvantage of having nobody to get him the ball inside. I won't go into my opinion of Paulus, I think it is well documented. McRob's grabs are mostly on the perimiter. Now it IS his fault that he doesn't take players like Hansbro to the hoop off the dribble. He always picks up his dribble which must drive Duke fans nuts. Maybe the fact that Wright is usually under the basket may have something to do with his decision. I don't know.
I've said all season that Duke needs to fire their strength and conditioning coach. McRob with another 20 lbs of muscle will be deadly. Hopefully Scheyer can find some gym instruction, too. Paulus looks like and old man out there.
That said, I think Duke will make a run in the tourney. And I think Maryland will win it.

In other words: McRoberts IS the biggest disappointment this season.

BTW I don't see 20 lbs of muscle helping Mcsob make layups/jumpers and stop crying and traveling all the time.
Lee Corso
Still visiting your parents? laugh.gif


re:McRob....your argument is with the pro scouts that see him as a first rounder, not me.
lebo421
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your argument is with the pro scouts that see him as a first rounder, not me.


WTF did he come back this year for, then? NBADraft.net had him projected as a top ten pick. You fags always whine about how Roy conned Tyler, but McSob would have gone in the top ten had K not conned him into staying.
PhilFordsVehicle
QUOTE(Lee Corso @ Mar 4 2007, 09:11 PM) *

Still visiting your parents? laugh.gif


Actually, I am. Great comeback, Lee.
DevilDJ
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WTF did he come back this year for, then? NBADraft.net had him projected as a top ten pick. You fags always whine about how Roy conned Tyler, but McSob would have gone in the top ten had K not conned him into staying.

No one conned Josh into anything.He came back because he needed to and,most importantly,he wanted to.Thing is,and this is my opinion only,he's a 4-year kid that has always assumed he was just a 2-year kid....at the most.Lord knows,he's probably been told that for years now.Sure,he could've come out last year and made some money.But isn't the big cheddar for that SECOND contract?He comes out last year and chances are he farts around the league for a season or two and disappears.He needs to stay in school,get stronger,get better and the money will still be there...for the long term too.Since he didn't opt out after his first year,he should stay at Duke.His draft status has to be lower than it was last season.He can improve on that.
pertsix
QUOTE(DevilDJ @ Mar 4 2007, 09:59 PM) *

No one conned Josh into anything.He came back because he needed to and,most importantly,he wanted to.Thing is,and this is my opinion only,he's a 4-year kid that has always assumed he was just a 2-year kid....at the most.Lord knows,he's probably been told that for years now.Sure,he could've come out last year and made some money.But isn't the big cheddar for that SECOND contract?He comes out last year and chances are he farts around the league for a season or two and disappears.He needs to stay in school,get stronger,get better and the money will still be there...for the long term too.Since he didn't opt out after his first year,he should stay at Duke.His draft status has to be lower than it was last season.He can improve on that.


McRoberts is JUST like Carlos Boozer as far as his term goes. He'll stay 4 years, then mature in the NBA.

Look at what Boozer is doing now.
crenshaw111
QUOTE(blueduke @ Mar 2 2007, 04:54 PM) *

That Tick Tock Juggernaut known as UNC. Pre season #1 in most polls and pre season #2 at worst and now you're hoping for a Sweet Sixteen

better than being preseason top 10 and ending up 7 in the acc

Josh McRandolph biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
lebo421
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McRoberts is JUST like Carlos Boozer as far as his term goes. He'll stay 4 years, then mature in the NBA.


Boozer stayed four years? I didn't notice. Fekking dumbass.


Yo DJ and blewdork, he's one of yours.
crenshaw111
QUOTE(pertsix @ Mar 4 2007, 10:03 PM) *

McRoberts is JUST like Carlos Boozer as far as his term goes. He'll stay 4 years, then mature in the NBA.

Look at what Boozer is doing now.

Good job DOOKIE he stayed 3 years just like Jason Williams look at how he matured in the NBA biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
blueduke
^^^^^Yo lesbo.......the wigger is one of yours
carolinarolls
QUOTE(DevilDJ @ Mar 4 2007, 09:59 PM) *

No one conned Josh into anything.He came back because he needed to and,most importantly,he wanted to.



Are you implying that Tyler did not need to or did not want to.

I hope not. Tyler announced his intentions to stay during the first week after the NCAA nets were cut, we waited a little longer for joshee to test the waters.

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