LOL. Gottlieb said it during the Oak Hill/Simeon game and its on ESPN insider.

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Paulus was the #1 rated PG in his class. With the way K develops his players, he'll need to recruit Jason Kidd if he wants a serviceable PG.

Gottlieb is incorrect as usual. Question: Anyone remember the last time Doug said anything positive about Duke? I certainly can't

Not true huh? So do we believe some anonymous dork on the The Dork Den or do we believe the kid's dad?


-ESPN Insider

Not true indeed



Another Dukehater rumor quashed. I'll take Watzone's word re all things Duke over Gottlieb and ESPN Insider any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Now scoot off to another topic .

It is not Gottlieb's word, moron. It is Jai Lucas' dad who said dook just started calling him. And you just used a blog as a source? LMMFAO

Try again.

I used a Duke insider as a source as opposed to Gottlieb, Andy Katz, or any other hater who claims the kid's dad said anything

Why in the world would Gottlieb simply make this shit up on national television? If it was not true, it could easily be refuted. Why don't you have that devils den dork interview Mr. Lucas and find out who's telling the truth?

This is classic abcer/moodokie BS right here. You fekking dorks ask for links and when one is provided you start whining like a 2 year old. LMAO

Gottlieb must be lying because (a) he doesn't suck coach K's cock and (b) the information ain't what you want to hear. Hell (oh no cuss words!!!) have Gottlieb come out and say Roy blows and suddenly his credibility will be restored.

Maybe the kid's dad made it up? Or maybe Mr Lucas got the wrong impression?



As far as I know watzone doesn't post at TDD. He posts at DBR and he has his own pay site. As far as Duke recruiting goes Watzone is money in much the same way Ben Sherman and another guy whose name escapes me is about UNC. Now if Ben said one thing and Gottlieb said another who would you be more inclined to believe? The only player Duke is still recruiting in this years class is Patrick Patterson who just so happens to be close friends with Lucas.



Gottlieb much like Bill Simmons and other ESPN writers isn't very fond of Duke for whatever reason. I was not disparging your link. Just pointing out it was misinformed

Or the more plausible explanation is that watzone doesn't know what the fek he is talking about. Whether or not dook has been calling about Lucas isn't something that's too fekking hard to comrepehend. Either they have been calling or they haven't. Lucas' dad says they have yet some no-name dookie blogger who claims to be an "insider" says dook isn't recruiting him. LMAO

dook doens't have a scholarship to offer so maybe that's the way watzone will weasel out of this one if he's ever called out on it.



Ben Sherman has been wrong before. I sure as hell wouldn't take his word over Lucas' dad's word. Are you kidding me?

You act like there is absolutely no possibilty that what Gottlieb said is true.



Gee, back to the bias excuse. But if they aren't fond of dook it ain't for whatever reason. It's for plenty of good reasons.

wtf?

jai would be a great get for duke if they landed him. and if he beat paulus out for the starting job, so be it.

a coach's job is to recruit the best players he can get. period. also, won't paulus be a JUNIOR during jai's frosh year? don't you think they would be the best time to get another pg? or do you think you're supposed to wait for the kid to graduate before you bring another in?


still, if the dukies say they aren't recruiting him, then they aren't

When the dust settles we'll see who was right and who was wrong. Right now I'll wager $100.00 Lucas does not sign nor will even be offered a scholarship to Duke in the future

Thanks std. We'll remember that the next time you rejects whine about Roy recruiting over somebody. You abcer/moodookies need to do a better job at not contradicting one another.



Lucas not signing with dook won't settle anything. You are already wrong and I am already right. Personally, I don't think he'll end up at dook either but that sure as hell doesn't mean dook has been recruiting him recently.

The only point in brining this up is because of all your whining about Roy recruiting over players. As soon as you jokers get a dose of your own medicine, all hell breaks loose around here.

1. Duke has no interest in signing Lucas. NONE

2. Duke is looking for a pg in next year's class.



How? B/c Gottlieb claims Lucas' dad said so? I remember Will Avery's mom shooting her mouth off and you tools beleived it only later she backed off-waaaaay off---from what she said earlier. Mr Lucas has for whaterever reason gotten the wrong impression if he actually made any claims to Gottlieb in the first place.

1. According to who? You? Some dork dookie with a blog who claims to be an insider?


2. Maybe so. But they're also gauging the interest in Jai Lucas.



Link?

I don't know which is funnier. You defending this or your defending K for berating Dowdell.

Or we could go with an ESPN guy who isn't an insider running around with second hand information.



"Gauging interest" = recruiting????? Since when?

My offer still stands. Duke will not sign and will not even offer Lucas a scholarship

You're right, dude. Gottlieb is biased and the guy who runs A DOOK BLOG isn't. All Gottlieb does is cover college basketball. Your source just blogs for about a half hour in the evening when he gets off work. It's pretty safe to say Gottlieb is the more credible source.


It's pretty easy to support all this bullshit you guys spout when you can just claim any source that contradicts your own is biased.

You have no clue who Watzone is or what his occupation is. He's alot closer to the Duke program than Doug Gottlieb and his sources are alot more credible. If Doug is sooooo right and I'm soooo wrong take up my offer or shut your whiney ass up

$100.00: Duke will not sign nor even offer Lucas a basketball scholarship

Take the offer or slink away, bitch

Slow your roll there blowsdook. So you're saying a guy like Gottlieb (a journalist covering the national basketball scene for a credible sports network who happens to never say anything positive about dook [*Boo ######ing Hoo*]) is biased, but a guy who writes a blog totally devoted to dook isn't?


And how are we to know if/when dook offers Jai? Is your bandwagon WAL-MART bitch-ass so close to the program you can grab the super duper 2fer inside info? Ooooooookay buddy.























(BTW, This is where blowsdook comes back on and says I sound like a bitter person for calling him out for the WAL-MART dook bitch that he is. )

God you're fuccking retarded. Weren't you dumb shits crowing about Roy recruiting over QT and everyone else on the 06 team when he brought in this class? What a fucckin hypocrite.


But please... explain how its like comparing "oranges and bowling balls". LOL

Two things:

1)"JohnTDD" runs that site and,from history,has a very good track record with info like this.I can't vouch for Watzone's take except to say that he's been a regular contributor on the Duke boards since I've been around.Every Duke fan that posts with any regularity on ANY Duke site would be familiar with both him and John.That said,they could both be mistaken.It happens.Suffice to say though,I personally think that guys that tend to follow one program more closely than the others often have connections within those programs.Therefore,they would know as good as anyone about whether or not a story is true.All things being equal,that is.

2)Dauggie is right.GP will be a junior.Why wouldn't K bring in another point.Duke has 1.ONE!NSmith is a combo.

If Watzone is biased wouldn't that hurt his business? He runs a pay site whose clientel are for the most part basketball recruiting junkies (and yes Duke fans)? If Gottlieb repeats something he heard how does it hurt his pocketbook? Who stands more to lose when they say "take it to the bank"? ESPN "journalists" are wrong quite but people who run sites catered to recruiting better not be wrong often or they're out of business.



Shouldn't be hard to find out. We all know K offered Handjob a scholly and we didn't have to ask his dad or Gottlieb for confirmation

link please?

i will promise you, you've never seen me complain about anyone being "recruited over"

maybe about a kid getting his scholly yanked (miller), but not the other.

Um, no. His viewers are dook fans. Why would being biased towards them affect his business?





Whatever, dude. You're right, the largest sports network in the world is biased but some random dook fan who blogs about his favorite team isn't.



Scout.com has a list of who offers who and who commits to where. dook could still recruit him and not offer and it wouldn't show though.



If they follow one program more closely, don't you think they would be more likely to be biased?

This is the key point. Good lord.

Um, stupidsh!t who would pay money for bad information? Not Duke fans I'll assure you that



It's sad you're too stupid to realize how stupid your above comment is. It's no wonder you rarely join in meaningful discussion



Once again stupidity rears it's ugly head. I plainly said duke will not sign nor even OFFER Lucas a scholarship. Get it this time?



If you're in business to give recruiting info being biased would be stupid like you. Again....people won't pay for bad info. They can get that for free

DUMBASS

And yet that has nothing to do with THE FACT that dook is/was recruiting Lucas. They were/are gauging his interest HOPING he would pay his own way to play dook.

Keep spinning dumbass, it's hilarious.

MUST DEFEND! MUST DEFEND!

ain't that how is goes?

Duke IS NOT recruiting Lucas.



According to Stoolie and Gottlieb. FWIW any school would be thrilled if a decent player offered to pay their own way to play on their roundball team, idiot. Nice to see someone came out to take up for their retarded brother though. Tell retard lesbo hello for me

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*"The Krazy Tarhole Fakbook"

Since you two have obviously forgotten, it's Jai Lucas' Dad who said dook had been recruiting him.

But whatever helps you sleep at night. Keep spinnin'...

I think the "national college basketball analysts are biased against dook, but dook fan sites and blogs are completely unbiased" argument is my favorite from the moodookie braintrust. Just priceless. Especially when they immediately dismiss anything from IC or any other Heels site. LOL

He's lying.Probably to garner extra interest from one of the schools that are actually recruiting his son.Happens all the time.

Give this "biased for or against" bs a rest.Obviously,any site devoted to one school will be biased towards that team.Thing is,that ain't the argument here.This thread started because the holes claimed that Duke was recruiting Lucas.BD and myself have cited info from Duke "insiders" that says different.Could they be wrong?Certainly.But I'd be more likely to believe the "inside" sources(regardless of the school) over a national guy or even the kids parents.Dad has a vested interest and,just maybe, a bit of an agenda.....like turning up the heat on the actual suitors vying for his sons' services.The "insiders" have an agenda too...to give their PAYING members the most accurate info possible.Arguing about who's biased and who ain't is beside the point...at least it is in this thread.

You're right. He must be if it doesn't support your argument, right? WTF ever, dude.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Wasn't it you dumbshits who said Adam Lucas was "LYING" when he said QT was happy at UNC, because he writes for a UNC website????

Wow

Funny how you Holes swear by Gottlieb but when it comes to padding your wallet or lightening it you take a walk. I don't blame you.

iirc, Blueduke has sent two kids through Duke Univ. I'd hardly call him a walmarter.
IF any of you uncers ever do that (or actually pay for anything for somebody besides yourself) let us know.

The title of this thread is incorrect. Ratface isn't recruiting over Paulus. He's actually recruiting over Pocius. Pocius either doesn't have ACC talent or he doesn't fit into Ratface's plans for whatever reason. So Pocius' departure is being planned for him. Of course, until this is official, Ratface doesn't have any scholarships to offer since it's well known that Patterson has claim on the 1 available. So Ratface's staff is making calls to gauge recruits' interest in Pocius' scholarship. And John Lucas exposed Ratface on it. So the spinning begins, the bloggers with "inside info" post that no recruiting is going on, and the smear campaign begins (Gottlieb and John Lucas are liars.) And the moodook faithful eat it up. But we all know better. Pocius must feel pretty good about things now that the writing is on the wall.

And I agree with bluedook that Jai Lucas won't get a scholarship offer from Ratface. 1) he may not be interested in dook, and 2) his Dad has exposed Ratface's backstabbing of Pocius, hence the spinning & smearing from the dookies. So Ratface will just deny making the call to Lucas and move on to the next 2007 PG on his list.

Or maybe he's not recruiting over anybody?

Yeah more like recruiting AROUND Pocius, since he's being shoved to the side and out the door.

Why would he recruit a pg to take Pocius' position? Answer: He isn't?

It doesn't matter what position Pocius plays. What matters is that Pocius is a SCHOLARSHIP and is WORTHLESS. So Ratface will run him off and sign a PG because that's what Ratface needs.

And the dook bloggers are probably telling telling the truth - they did get inside info that Jai Lucas wasn't being recruited. Somebody's lying and it isn't John Lucas. It's Ratface's stooges.

I find it interesting that unc fans are outraged over a player that Duke isn't even recruiting for scholarship the year that Roy YANKED a scholly from a former starter to make room for an incoming class.

Pick your battles dimwit.

Kinda like Wes Miller huh? We all know what happened to his scholarship! But that's at UNC so that's okay. Your other stuff reads like Moped's ramblings and is unworthy of attention.

bluwdook - I'll bet you $100 that Pocius won't be on dook's roster next year.

Why not bet $1 million? Shit, you never paid paxno what you owe him.

Tell ya what. I'll bet you one gazillion dollars Pocius will be on Duke's roster next year, you stupid fek.

LEE MODE: MUST DEFEND DOOK!!!!! MUST DEFEND!!!!!!!! /LEE MODE






He didn't "yank" anything, you fekking dumbass. This has been gone over time and time again. Wes came to UNC from JMU as a WALK-ON. He recieved a scholarship because one was available that year and gave it back the next year when the team needed it. By all means though, don't let reality cloud your vision.

DIPSHIT

"Gave it back"



From what I hear people have a hard time getting you to pay off your bets. If Pocius is gone it won't be b/c Duke would rather have Lucas. Perhaps Pocius sees Nolan Smith coming in and taking his minutes and he decides to play for pay overseas? So what?

That's another heartwarming story from the Krazy Karolina Fak Book.

To quote sz, "ALL scholarships are year to year". So WTF is the difference?

Miller would not be playing for unc if Mr. Miller wasn't wealthy and wanted his 24 yr old son to enjoy himself in college.