I DEBATED WHETHER OR NOT TO POST THIS ON THE "OFF TOPIC" AREA. BUT I WANT TO MOST EYES ON THIS POST. IT WAS COLD AND RAINY TODAY. I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TODAY TO SEE A COUPLE OF IDIOT SMOKERS OUTSIDE MY OFFICE IN THE RAIN.....SITTING AT A WET TABLE, HUDDLED UNDER UMBRELLAS. THEY REALLY LOOKED ALMOST AS PATHETIC AS THEY ACTUALLY WERE. I REALLY ENJOY SEEING THIS EVERY YEAR. THEY HAVE TO BE THINKING ABOUT HOW STUPID THEY LOOK TO NORMAL PEOPLE. THEY PAY GOOD MONEY TO KILL THEMSELVES MUCH FASTER. THATS PRECIOUS. I LIKEN THE STUPIDITY TO THOSE 50+ YEAR OLD OLD BAGS WHO CANT STOP WORSHIPPING THE SUN. THEIR FACES LOOK LIKE CATCHER'S MITTS AND THEY ACTUALLY THINK THEY LOOK GOOD.
WHAT WOULD MAKE SOMEONE SMOKE IN THE FIRST PLACE. IF YOU ARE OVER THE AGE OF 80, YOU GET A PASS ON THIS TOPIC. ANYONE ELSE WHO SMOKES WEARS THEIR BRAIN ON THEIR SLEEVE. I PUT SMOKERS IN THE SAME CLASS AS TARHEELS*. I CANT TAKE THEM SERIOUSLY.

LEE IS EXEMPT FROM THIS RIDICULE

You were working, they weren't.



FACE

ACTUALLY, THEIR LUNGS WERE THE ONES LABORING, NOT ME. I WAS WALKING AT A HEALTHY BRISK PACE(A SPRINT FOR A SMOKER) BACK TO THE OFFICE FROM A HEALTHY LUNCH. FACE INVALIDATED.

I have never understood why in the hell non-smokers care so damn much about what smokers do and this is coming from a non-smoker. You sound like a bunch of whiney bitches crying over something that doesn't effect you in the slightest. Wake Forest and Baptist Hospital just recently banned smoking on all school and hospital property. This includes outside in courtyards, parking lots, etc. all because a few assholes were complaining about the possibility that they may have to smell cigarette smoke for half a second when they were leaving a building and smokers were standing by doorways. It's a joke. And don't get me started on these damn TRUTH commercials. Get a life people you sound pathetic.

i am an ex-smoker...smoked 23 yrs, 2 packs a day. Lord knows, i can't explain the allure of tobacco, but it's a strong fixation. while i don't smoke anymore, i can't stand the "holier than thou" attitude some take about it. hell, we all choose our "poisons". one can take his "brisk walk' and "eat his healthy lunch", but if a semi hits you head-on on the way home from work today, is one any better off?! shit, the herd's got to be thinned somehow!! lmao

funny story....this summer, we were at cape lookout. beached the boat and were having a few beers when my buddy lights up a smoke. about 40 yds down the beach was a young couple with a small child. the mother walks up to my boat and asks us to move as "the smoke might blow towards her child". fek, the wind was blowing ~25mph and swirling!! i thought that was a little over the top...(thought my buddy was goin' to moon her!!)

Care to elaborate on that lebo?

Are you trying to say second-hand smoke, etc...., doesn't affect non-smokers in the least bit?

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I remember riding my bike with my pals in the "fog" behind the DDT sprayer-truck at dusk.

That didn't affect us at all.

Yes it did, you're a state fan.

FACE

It can, but not like some of these pussy's make it out to. Yes, if you live in a house with three smokers who smoke indoors and you don't smoke, there's a good chance second hand smoke is going to effect your health, but if you walk through a cloud of smoke for less than a second on the way to your car, you're going to be perfectly fine.

You made the claim that it doesn't affect us non-smokers in the slightest, which of course is ridiculous. It's not damaging my health, but I hold my breath walking into my office building because it smells like pure shit thanks to the pile of cigarette butts laying around outside the door in the "smoker's area." And yes, they are cleaned up everyday but by 9am the next day many folks have already been on at least 2 "smoke breaks."

To me, it's just fekking annorying having to smell that crap. No difference in them standing out there farting non-stop.

BTW - There is no telling how much productivity is lost thanks to "smoke breaks." I am convinced that some people at my office don't have an actual desk/office/cube.

But that's my point. You don't see people out there protesting farting at work or banning farting in public places. It it's not effecting your health then why make such an issue out of it. I ddin't mean to say that it doesn't effect anyone else in the slightest, it does but like I said, no more than a fart does. Like I said, I don't smoke, but it is a waste of time and effort for me to bitch and moan about something that amounts to nothing more than a peers smelly bad habit.

My dad smoked 3 packs of Tareytons a day.
My dad was in great shape (a jock from way back) but after 48 years he had triple bypass because he had 98% blockage.
He managed to go another 5 years then they found lung cancer in his left lung which he had removed at Baptist.

He struggled on and ended up on oxygen tethered to a machine for his last 4 years.
He became so oxygen deprived that he began to have dementia and was no longer the man I knew and respected.

He died of pulmonary failure a year ago Memorial Day 2005.

Yet my mom won't give it up and continues on smoking, in fact she'd rather stay at her house by herself so she could smoke than come visit at my house where where her children and grandchildren are because she has to sneak a puff in the bathroom or go outside to take a drag.

I've often thought that my mom loves smoking more than she loves me or her grand kids.

Is that what you want people thinking about you when you're gone?

Cigarettes are addictive. Not just the "stress release" or the "hand to mouth motion" but chemically.

Think I'm lying? I can go without alcohol, sex, music and World of Warcraft longer than any smoker can stop.

As 'Zone and Lebo alluded to, the chemicals are very damaging to the smoker but the smoke (also chemical filled) is dangerous to the non-smoker.

And for the small lunatic crowd that think smoking "isn't dangerous" - there is a REASON that your insurance premiums go UP when you admit to being a smoker.

Smoking is distasteful, disgusting and stupid.

But it's still legal.

SMOKING CIGARETTES SHOWS WEAKNESS. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. DEFENDING SMOKING SHOWS STUPIDITY.

LMAO!!! The slackard with half a million posts on this board, and most of them during working hours, is all concerned about lost productivity! What a stitch!


Encountering whiffs of smoke outside is going to affect you so minutely as to be completely negligible... it's legal, so let me ask you pussies who want to whine about encountering it outside this... are you aware that your whining is twice as annoying? Nicotine is more addictive than heroine, yet fekkin' drug addicted junkies get more government help kicking their habit than smokers do. If the gvmt was really concerned about smokers' health, they'd provide programs/medication to make it easy to kick the habit. They don't 'cause it's a fekkin' cash cow.


carbuncle - I'd like to lock you in the smokers' lounge at Dullas Airport for about half a day.

all you pussies are just whining cuz you weren't fucccking cool enough to ever start smoking.





for me smoking is a very noble cause. it is much better for me to smoke and die from it, than for me to not smoke and kill every single one of you mother fuccckers.

You should see the one in Atlanta. It's a glass case. I felt like a zoo animal in there. "Look mommy, smokers!"

Smoking outside should be legal everywhere.

Out of courtesy, I limit my smoking to outdoors and bars. I sit in the non-smoking section of restaurants because I, too, don't like to smell smoke when I eat.

I'll quit some day, but not today.

What are you talking about? I used to LIVE in that glass case when I was living in Raleigh and my former hooch was getting her MBA at Emory. Will Rogers Airport in OKC has one of those nice glass boxes, too. Hell, they're so good you don't even have to light up when you're in there... FREE SMOKE - YIPEE!!!!

ya ought to try and ride in the "smoking car" on the london to edinburgh, scotland train.......

i swear, it was like fog rolling out whenever the door was opened! my own Hoochie, who smokes, couldn't handle it but for about 90 sec!!