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You know, those FIFTY FEKKIN FOUR bogus classes that unc admitted to offering since 2007?

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How many professors implicated in those classes?
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Julius Peppers releases statement about North carolina transcript

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Julius Peppers, the former North carolina standout now with the Chicago Bears, is defending his academic record a week after a partial transcript showing his grades as a collegian was posted on the unc website.

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Peppers, who never had a grade point average above 1.95 according to The News & Observer, played both football and basketball at North carolina. He released a statement to the Chicago Tribune on Saturday, addressing both his academic record and the breach of privacy that resulted in his grades being made public. The statement did not say whether Peppers would take legal action against unc, but it is clear he and his agent and former unc professor, Carl Carey, are unhappy. Carey, now a professor at Texas, did not teach Peppers.

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"This statement is in response to false allegations regarding my connection to an academic scandal within the University of North carolina athletic and African-American studies departments. This week has been an upsetting and challenging week for me, as one of my most private academic documents appeared on the university's website for public examination. I'm terribly disappointed in the fact that my privacy has been violated, as well as frustrated with whoever negligently and carelessly committed such a flagrant error.

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"I can assure everyone that there is no academic fraud as it relates to my college transcript. I took every course with qualified members of the unc faculty and I earned every grade whether it was good or bad. I was never given unapproved assistance or preferential treatment in terms of my academic career because I was a student-athlete. I was also never deemed ineligible to compete on any of the football or basketball teams.

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"In hindsight, I am pleased with my undergraduate experience. unc gave me the exposure and foundation I needed to follow my dream, which ultimately led to my chosen career path. Isn't that what college is supposed to be for? Going forward, a decade later, I can honestly say that I now understand the importance of supporting students early in their college career. Presently, I'm thinking of ways that I can use my experiences and resources to help assist them. Thanks and Go Heels."

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Carey told the Chicago Tribune that this is one of the most difficult challenges Peppers has ever dealt with.

He truly did not deserve this,” Carey said. “But as I told him, with big blessings come small challenges. Julius has been blessed tremendously by God, and no one can take that away from him.”

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QUOTE(pertsix @ Aug 18 2012, 09:14 PM) *

How many professors implicated in those classes?


1? What difference does that make? He was the department chair. I suppose he just loved fball and bball players. He did it all on his own, right? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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How many professors implicated in those classes?

Answer: ZERO>>>>>because there were NO PROFESSORS, that was the fekking problem!


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Cowherd loves ya , holes. It ain't yer fault. It's the SYSTEM!

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Reflections on Colin Cowherd and Academic Fraud from a former NDOASFSA Informant

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So while the NCAA is continuing to deal with the nightmare that is Penn State,, it now finds itself facing what just might be the largest scheme of academic fraud in history at the University of North
carolina. The scale of the alleged fraud is simply mind-boggling.
Two department chairs and other assorted academic advisors purportedly placed dozens of athletes in bogus classes with no work. All you had to do is just register and you got an A and some credit. Wow.

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Now, I don’t normally write about other programs’ woes, because schadenfreude is not a feeling one should enjoy. But the level of cynicism this story has received from certain parts of major sports media is truly offensive. On that score, ladies and gentlemen, I give you noted Notre Dame hater, Colin Cowherd, on the steaming mess coming out of Chapel Hill

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The other day he brings up the unc scandal only to pooh-pooh the seriousness of it. No Mr. Cowherd, it isn’t every major power in football. I can testify first hand to that it doesn’t happen at Notre Dame. Yes, the admissions criteria for athletes are lower than for non-athletes. They are given an athletic scholarship to represent the students of the University on the field of play. But at ND they are simply not allowed to take “easy breezy classes.” There are no “easy breezy classes” at ND. Every student must take calculus. Every student must take theology. Every student must take a college level writing class. So while yes, in a sense, “all you have to do is pass” they are not given “the easiest classes.”

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So you never beat up on a “major college” because... why again? Because everyone does it? Are you serious? Please don’t make me resort to if North-carolina-jumped-off-a-bridge-would-you-do-it, Colin? I get, Mr. Cowherd, that you have a too-cool-for-school attitude toward most things, but where would you draw the line? Should we abolish student athletics all together? Or should we aspire to something more ?

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Notice which notable program is left out as doing it the right way? Of course you did. I’m not blaming Colin Cowherd for the ethical cesspool that is major college athletics, but his attitude doesn’t help matters . He has a major platform for discussing these issues and claims not to be a moralist or a preacher. Nice. You don’t have to be either one, you just have to be a decent person to recognize that a University is meant to aspire to more. There will be no reform of major college athletics as long as extreme cynics of Cowherd’s variety are in charge of our national sports discourse

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Answer: ZERO>>>>>because there were NO PROFESSORS, that was the fekking problem!
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Wow. Pep... Well done.

Chills from the "go heels" at the end. He has taken the high road and I commend him for it.


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RE: Julius Peppers releases statement

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airtime23 wrote: We all know that he didn't write that. C'mon.

But it's a good statement, nonetheless.


I will meet you in a dark alley and stab you to death you worthless ****.
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post Aug 18 2012, 11:04 PM
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Between transcripts of Peppers, Austin, a decade of questions for unc

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The academic scandal at unc-Chapel Hill is marked, more than anything, by the disclosure of parts of two academic transcripts tied to high-profile athletes.

One was football star Marvin Austin, who was kicked off the team in 2010 and now plays in the NFL for the New York Giants. The other belonged to two-sport star Julius Peppers, an All-American in football who was a key reserve on the 2000 Final Four basketball team.

The transcripts show classes and grades that have raised serious and ongoing questions about the rigor and type of education unc has offered athletes, who bring in millions every year for the university with their on-the-field performances

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What would a deeper review of athlete transcripts show?

Chancellor Holden Thorp said in an interview that the university has reviewed some transcripts as part of its investigation that earlier this year found dozens of classes in the African studies department in which students, a majority of them athletes, did not have to show up. That review was completed months after an unrelated NCAA investigation found that a tutor engaged in “academic fraud” by writing parts of papers, conducting research and doing other work for three football players.

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Thorp would not be more specific about what kinds of transcripts were looked at and what was discovered. But the university has not produced any information to the public that indicates it has undertaken a comprehensive inquiry into the types of classes taken by athletes and the grades they received.

Thorp said that is something a new audit, announced Thursday, could dig into. The effort will be led by former Gov. Jim Martin, working with the Virchow, Krause & Company management consulting firm. It specializes in academic performance audit procedures and controls.

For two years, university officials have declined to provide The News & Observer with athlete transcripts. The newspaper had asked for the documents with stripped-out personal information, such as the names and any other identifying details of students, as the NCAA investigation heated up in 2010.

Transcript information, if provided, would show whether there are clusters of classes, disparities in grades, favored professors and other such details at a university where a faculty report issued last month described a “campus with two cultures,” one academic, one athletic .

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The N&O first sought transcript information – with personal information deleted – in late 2010.
In early 2011, the university denied The N&O’s request, saying that classes taken by athletes, even with names and other such details deleted, might still be “easily traceable” back to the athlete and violate their privacy.

“Our student-athletes attend class with other students on campus,” Regina Stabile, unc’s director of institutional records and reporting compliance, wrote in a memo. “That means that many students on campus know which student-athletes were in a particular section of a particular course. Knowing the specific courses taken and the order in which they were taken could too easily provide all the clues needed to match a de-identified transcript with a specific student-athlete.”

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Salzwedel, a former tennis player at Drake who published his own university transcript in one of the law review articles, said that approach is typical of universities seeking to protect big-time athletics.

“It simply isn’t credible for unc to say that because other students (many of whom are long gone from unc) might be able to discern individual athlete’s transcripts, the redacted transcripts cannot be produced to you, a reporter,” he said. “In addition, as we’ve discussed in our articles, there should be no federal privacy protection for classes taken because, even as unc admits, any student can watch an athlete walk into class.”

The N&O subsequently requested the data in a different format altogether, seeking classes taken and grades earned for teams, asking unc to organize the information not in the form of each athlete’s transcript but instead by showing it for each semester. That request is pending.

Thorp said he would not consider the request again until the special audit is completed. A similar request to N.C. State University also has been denied.

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Problems a decade apart

The details from the two unc athletes’ transcripts that have become public – with the star-studded names attached – were revealing.

For Austin, a partial transcript showed that in the summer he first arrived on campus as a heralded recruit, he took a 400-level course taught by the longtime chairman of the Department of African and Afro-American Studies, Julius Nyang’oro.

The transcript’s revelation helped prompt unc’s more formal review. It found Nyang’oro and an assistant had organized and led at least 45 of 54 no-show classes, ones in which no instruction was offered and students were required only to submit a paper. The university says Nyang’oro was forced to retire. His assistant retired in 2009, and has not cooperated with university inquiries.

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Then, last week, a 2001 transcript bearing Peppers’ name was found residing in a portal on unc’s web site. Peppers acknowledged Saturday that it was his and said there was no academic fraud involved in the grades he received.

After it was published in the N&O, national attention focused on the problems at unc. The transcript showed that Peppers received grades of B or better in the same classes and independent study courses that in later years were identified as suspect in the internal investigation.

In the spring of 2000, for example, Peppers received a B-plus in AFRI 120 – Southern Africa. That same course was listed six times over three later years as a no-show class in the university’s internal review.
The transcript shows Peppers received poor grades, including at least 11 Ds or Fs, in other courses

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The university’s previous review of the African studies department had gone back only to 2007; there is no information available about whether those courses listed under Peppers’ name were also no-show offerings.

By the week’s end, Thorp had written a letter to trustees, faculty and staff that says, “Our focus every day remains on fixing the problems and ensuring they never happen again.”

In the same letter, Thorp announced the new inquiries, including the audit that he said would review “any additional academic irregularities that may have occurred.” It was not otherwise clear what the scope or depth of the new audit will be.

No time frame was given for when it will be complete.

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Payments, jobs and other benefits for players were common practice in some places whether legal or not. There also were instances of ringers – players who suited up for a school even though they weren’t legitimate students.

Is that essentially what they’ve been doing in recent seasons at unc-Chapel Hill – fielding a football team salted with ringers ?

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This has to be the standard: For a university to avoid the conclusion that it’s cheating, team members cannot be allowed to perform so poorly in the classroom that if they weren’t football (or basketball) phenoms, they’d be flunked out .

In Chapel Hill that standard has been breached if not shredded. Worse, the fault lies heavily with an academic department, where professors are supposed to be front-line guardians of integrity.

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The Department of African and Afro-American Studies, under then-chairman Julius Nyang’oro, looks as if it was allowed to become Tar Heel ringer heaven .

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unc-CH aims to teach its students about the world and how to think. There is nothing wrong with athletes, many of them African-American, choosing a field of study that appeals to their curiosity and personal identity while giving them intellectual skills that could lead to any number of careers.

But the university must uphold its end of the bargain by making sure courses in this or any department are rigorously taught and graded . Overall paths of study must be logically structured.

If any department becomes a place for the football program to park athletes who are students in name only – i.e., ringers who can’t or don’t do college-level work – then there has been a monstrous failure in standards and oversight for which faculty members must be held responsible. At unc-CH, let the damage be fully gauged and the repairs begin .

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If peppers admits that that's his transcript?

Game over. unc is done. At this point they need to beg for mercy to avoid losing acreditation much less the death penalty and forefeiture of games and whatever.

This makes smu look like Romper Room.
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Peppers acknowledged Saturday that it was his and said there was no academic fraud involved in the grades he received.


So even of Peppers is being truthful he's basically saying he played while having a gpa below university/conference standards. How does that happen? Unless the school.....
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So even of Peppers is being truthful he's basically saying he played while having a gpa below university/conference standards. How does that happen? Unless the school.....

Not only does he cop to the transcript , his ghostwriter says there was no academic fraud involved. WTF?!?!?! If Julius actually believes that , he really IS dumb as a bag of hammers. Look , let's all get on the same page. unx , by ilegally keeping affleetz eligible , gained a competitve advantage on the field and on the court. Acknowledging that this advantage was gained via a decades-long system of academic fraud with the full consent of tptb makes this a travesty of biblical proportions if the NCAA doesn't return to unx and finish the job they shoulda finished months ago.
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Acknowledging that this advantage was gained via a decades-long system of academic fraud with the full consent of tptb makes this a travesty of biblical proportions ...

Da curolina way!

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..DJ, not defending it, just saying that IF it was true its still way beyond what be told is the "xarolina way"!

Of course its not true so WTFreak?!
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When?

It may have been in the 1961-62 academic year, Dean Smith's first at the helm. On the day Smith was hired there were four incoming frosh who had signed letters of intent. One did not enroll (but coincidently nearly 50 years later appeared in the news as super agent Gary Wichard's financial advisor), another dropped out of the Hill in October to transfer to St. John's. Super recruit Billy Cunningham had actually graduated from high school early and enrolled at the Hill in January. However, he dropped out of uncCH just days before the Duke freshman game to avoid flunking out, regaining eligibility through correspondence courses. In his autobiography Frank McGuire praises Dean for his creativity in this particular case. The fourth flunked out at the conclusion of his freshman year and transferred to Wilmington Junior College, now known as uncW.

That's an 0 for 4 for Dean's first year at the helm. Hard to achieve a 97% graduation rate with a such a start, but Smith and his minions convinced the journalists of the United States he accomplished it
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