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post Aug 3 2012, 10:27 PM
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Larry Fedora was one of 31 individuals who, between May and June, met with a University of North carolina faculty subcommittee to discuss ways to bridge the divide between athletics and academics at unc. Fedora said on Saturday that he hopes to build a stronger working relationship with the university’s faculty.

“I don’t know that you can do it overnight or in the short time that I’ve been here,” said Fedora, the Tar Heels’ head football coach whom the university hired last December. “But I’ve started building some relationships with as many of the faculty as I can. And hopefully I’ll be able to do that in a certain amount of time.”

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Fedora arrived in January at unc with the expectation that the problems that hung over the football program – and the athletic department – would soon be a thing of the past. The NCAA penalties following its investigation into impermissible benefits and academic fraud scandals in March, Fedora arrived in January at unc with the expectation that the problems that hung over the football program – and the athletic department – would soon be a thing of the past. The NCAA penalties following its investigation into impermissible benefits and academic fraud scandals in March, but other issues have continued to surface

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Fedora, whose team began preseason practice on Friday, said the recent revelations have resulted in “no more baggage, [and] no more handicap” for his program, which because of the NCAA sanctions, will serve a one-year postseason ban while enduring the loss of five scholarships in each of the next three recruiting cycles.

Once it all came out, we just addressed it and moved on,” Fedora said.“I don’t know of anything new that’s come out. I think a lot of things get brought up constantly. That may be the frustrating part, is that it hasn’t died yet. But eventually it will.”

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During his short time at unc, Fedora said he hasn’t sensed a rift between athletics and the faculty.

“But I will say this,” he said. “On any college campus in the country … it’s probably not as close of a connection with the faculty and the athletic department as a lot of people want to think there is. There’s always some difference, because the two don’t interact a lot.

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Larry the Hat says he wants to "bridge the gap." rolleyes.gif Gonna be quite a task given that one party believes shet happened now it's time to move on and the other sees corruption continuing to be revealed. Good to see that the fball coach is keenly aware of what's happened , what continues to happen and the neccessity to clean up unx fball. rolleyes.gif laugh.gif
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Barbara Rynerson: Picking unc nits

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As I perused your July 28 paper, I read yet again more unc bashing. I am so sick of reading of what now, in my opinion, borders on minutia and boredom. You have managed to implicate one flawed professor, probably several athletes and laxity in supervision as representative of not only unc-Chapel Hill but the entire university system.

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In all those years of teaching, I had only one student-athlete in my course (there may have been more in the program), a female volleyball player. She worked harder than most to make up for any missed classes and completed assignments within the semester in which she was enrolled; she graduated with stellar grades. I suspect there are many more like her at unc.

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I wonder what you will write about if/when you run out of all the unc nit-picking . Even God forgives sins eventually!

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Spoken like a true wine-and-cheeser. Must have damn good seats. And we wonder why this shet went so long unaddressed. rolleyes.gif
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In all those years of teaching, I had only one student-athlete in my course (there may have been more in the program)

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John F. Bridgers: Dual schools

Currently, the information published regarding academic fraud involving unc-Chapel Hill athletes suggests that for a number of years, the university has been operating a separate school for many of their athletes. To call it a college or university would be a gross misuse of these terms. For an athlete to attend this special school and graduate with a degree from unc-Chapel Hill constitutes a grave injustice to all other unc graduates who earned their degrees by successfully completing college level courses and all graduation requirements.

The question remains whether top administrators, coaches and other faculty have been aware of this special school for athletes for many years and elected to look the other way, thus putting athletics ahead of academics. A thorough, independent investigation is called for. If a cover-up has taken place, those responsible should be held accountable

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— Holding head coaches more accountable for the actions of their assistants. The head coach, the Board says, sets the tone and culture for compliance within the program.

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In the most recent case, fired North carolina coach Butch Davis was never implicated in the NCAA’s 42-page laundry list off allegations against his Tar Heels’ program. Meanwhile, his assistant coach, John Blake, was accused of funneling players to late NFL agent Gary Wichard. There was also significant academic fraud and impressible benefits claims against unc.

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Davis lost his job, but wasn’t called out by the NCAA. A rule like the one recommended would virtually ensure that won’t happen in the future.

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Athletes enrolled in independent study

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The unc internal report, however, only covered lecture courses. WRAL News looked at data about independent study courses offered by the department and found additional red flags – lots of athletes with the potential for earning twice the credit offered by other departments for similar work.

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An independent study is defined as a class in which a student is doing in-depth work outside of the classroom with supervision from a faculty member. unc's review did mention a problem with how independent studies were tracked in the African and Afro-American Studies Department, but it didn't go in-depth about those issues.

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In the first summer session of 2010, six students were registered for an independent study course in the department. All were members of the unc football or men's basketball team. In the second session, an independent study of 11 students had eight football or men's basketball players.

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WRAL identified nine courses over four years where enrollment seemed out of the ordinary:

AFAM 396 Summer 2nd session 2007: 7 total students enrolled; 0 current or former football and/or men’s basketball players

AFRI 396 Summer 2nd session 2007: 16 total students enrolled, 8 current or former football and/or men’s basketball players

AFAM 396 Summer 1st session 2008: 4 total students enrolled; 1 current or former football and/or men’s basketball players

AFRI 396 Summer 2nd session 2008: 13 total students enrolled; 2 current or former football and/or men’s basketball players

AFRI 396 Fall 2008: 9 total students enrolled; 4 current or former football and/or men’s basketball players

AFAM 396 Summer 1st session 2009: 2 total students enrolled; 0 current or former football and/or men’s basketball players

AFRI 396 Summer 1st session 2009: 4 total students enrolled; 3 current or former football and/or men’s basketball players

AFAM 396 Summer 1st session 2010: 6 total students enrolled; 6 current or former football and/or men’s basketball players

AFRI 396 Summer 2nd session 2010: 11 total students enrolled; 8 current or former football and/or men’s basketball players

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"Typically, there would be one or, at most, two students doing an independent course with a faculty member. At least in our department that's the usual course arrangement," Kramer said.

The numbers also seemed high to Jay Smith, a professor in the history department. I more than 20 years at unc, Smith said he has only taught two independent study courses with one student each.

Smith also raised concerns about the number of athletes in some of the courses.

"You wonder how those athletes wound up in that course, what they were doing when they got there, what purpose that particular course was serving in their own academic schedules," he said.

It appears at least some players were taking independent studies courses outside of their major.

The unc football media guide lists only five members of the 2012 team as majors in African and Afro-American Studies. Three had switched into that department after their junior year.

WRAL News was unable to reach any of the former players to ask if they had taken the independent studies classes.

Both Kramer and Smith say it's not terribly common for students to take independent study courses outside of their major, but it does happen if a student has a particular interest.

"That in itself is not unusual, provided there is a good intellectual reason," Smith said.


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Students in independent study classes offered through the Department of African and Afro-American Studies could earn up to six credit hours, double the normal amount offered by most departments.

In the nine courses WRAL News looked into, 72 students were enrolled; 43 percent (31 students) were football players and one was a basketball player. Twelve students got more than three credit hours for their work. The school says five of those 12 were current or former football players. The basketball player got the more standard three credit hours.

unc has blamed problems in the department on Nyang'oro, the former chairman who retired in July, and his former administrative assistant. Neither has been available to answer questions about the courses.

Apparently, the department listed multiple independent studies students under a single instructor, even if other instructors actually supervised the students. That makes it difficult to determine which instructors were involved with independent study courses. WRAL News tried to contact the instructors listed as having taught the courses, including the new chairman of African and Afro-American Studies but did not hear back from them.

"I'm anxious to know a lot more about what happened in these courses," Smith said. "What kind of work was performed, how the university even knows the work was turned in."

unc leaders have repeatedly said they don't believe questionable classes in the department were set up specifically to help athletes because non-athletes were also enrolled.

Amid the questions about how and why the department managed the course, the university has added policies regarding independent studies to try and keep this from happening again. Now, faculty members are no longer allowed to supervise more than two independent study students per term. An independent study now requires a contract to detail what is expected from the student and instructor.

Kramer said he is concerned the lingering questions hurt the credibility of hard-working faculty at unc and classes intended to be some of the most rigorous.

"I feel like the fallout from these abuses could undermine something that is a legitimate and valuable part of the intellectual experience of many students," he said.

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excellent research finding that dj, did you know at unx this post would garner you 6 credit hours?
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excellent research finding that dj, did you know at unx this post would garner you 6 credit hours?



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Buckle up -- this is someone in the faculty dropping a dime with WRAL. I've said for yrs. that a significant portion of the unc faculty is anti-football.

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lmao. you really think ANY of this information is "leaked?"


jesus. WRAL's "investigating" has been reading FOOTBALL MEDIA GUIDES for what a student has declared as their major. FOOTBALL MEDIA GUIDE instead of directory.unc.edu



Jay Smith taught two people for IS classes because he's a shit professor. NO ONE would want to take a personal class with someone that is either 1. hard 2. a moron.


conversely, would you take a class with a professor that gave out ONLY 74% A's and 25% B's. because nyang'oro was for ALL students, not just football players.

http://unc.blinkness.com/professor/unc-nyang'oro-j



compared to the professor i had last for discrete math

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Students in independent study classes offered through the Department of African and Afro-American Studies could earn up to six credit hours, double the normal amount offered by most departments.


This goes back to what Rachel said awhile back, to wit - this is no longer about football and basketball, this is about accreditation.




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This goes back to what Rachel said awhile back, to wit - this is no longer about football and basketball, this is about accreditation.


Wasn't aware that the accreditors were even remotely interested.
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Wasn't aware that the accreditors were even remotely interested.

Maybe they should be?
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lmao. you really think ANY of this information is "leaked?"


jesus. WRAL's "investigating" has been reading FOOTBALL MEDIA GUIDES for what a student has declared as their major. FOOTBALL MEDIA GUIDE instead of directory.unc.edu



Jay Smith taught two people for IS classes because he's a shit professor. NO ONE would want to take a personal class with someone that is either 1. hard 2. a moron.


conversely, would you take a class with a professor that gave out ONLY 74% A's and 25% B's. because nyang'oro was for ALL students, not just football players

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^^ A lot of the trash Heels fans actually believe that.

You can most often tell that they didn't read the article. They just saw a headline having to do with questionable classes. In their trash brains, that translates to "easy classes," and the output that comes out of their big smelly mouths is "everybody has easy classes for athletes."

No-show becomes easy.
No-show becomes online.
Fraudulent becomes easy.
New red flags become the same as prior red flags.

I think deep in their inbred brains, they honestly believe that the story is about easy classes and that it's the same information being repeated over and over.

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As more and more shameful details of an academic scandal gnaw away at the integrity of unc-Chapel Hill, give those involved credit for at least one positive attribute: Teamwork.

Athletes didn’t find highly questionable courses in the school’s African and African American Studies Department on their own; they had help: a small army of 115 tutors, counselors and others stationed in a $70 million, 150,000-square-foot building attached to Kenan Stadium

A unc-CH faculty committee has concluded in a new report that some of those advisers counseled the athletes to go to African and African American Studies, where some of these students managed to enroll in classes that never met and in some cases, whose professors, as indicated in the paperwork, denied ever teaching. Football players comprised one-third of the enrollment in 54 of those phantom classes

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The report also suggests a tug-of-war between academic counselors in the athletics department and the university’s main advising center , which is available to all students.

Athletes say they often were given conflicting advice by the two entities, and the report, in fact, suggests two conflicting missions: one focused on a traditional learning, the other on making class less of a distraction from more important stuff such as practice and games.

In explaining in a newspaper interview why he chose African studies over communications as a major, a former unc star basketball player, Sean May, noted that, in communications, “I had to be there in the actual classroom.”

Not so much with African studies.

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The report also cites an “ambiguous” chain of command over academic support staff members in the athletics department.

Most disturbingly, it describes a rift between sports and academics — an athletics program that has become an island unto itself “on a campus with two cultures.”

The report also questions why athletes need a separate advising program in the first place .

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In all fairness, there is a valid argument for specialized help. The demands of practice, games and travel time for sports can make keeping up in class more challenging. But when those counselors overstep their bounds, or dispense poor advice, or operate independently and apart from the rest of the university, neither the best interests of that student or the institution are served.

The report’s recommendations call for a tighter integration of the university’s main academic program with the sports academic support staff. It proposes that all athletes’ schedules be reviewed by the main advising office. And it rightly suggests that Chancellor Holden Thorp establish an independent, outside panel to assess the relationship between athletics and academics at the university. This problem may be bigger than it seems .

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carolina already is suffering the indignities of NCAA sanctions for multiple violations involving the football program .

This faculty report is a serious warning that carolina needs to change its mindset about the playing field and the classroom .

Before it’s too late.

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Somebody wanna get off their azz? Can't link from this phone but it looks like ESPN (national? Not national?) is gettin' up some collective unx/NCAA azz. lol
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http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/...caa-stays-quiet

ESPN BASKETBALL

national? international?

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The NCAA's rule on academic fraud falls under "Unethical Conduct" and states, fairly vaguely:

"(b) Knowing involvement in arranging for fraudulent academic credit or false transcripts for a prospective or enrolled student athlete."

According to an email from NCAA spokesperson Stacey Osburn, academic fraud is an NCAA matter:

"Anytime a[n athletics] staff member knowingly is involved in arranging fraudulent academic credit or false transcripts for a prospective or enrolled student-athlete, regardless of whether the institutional staff member acted alone or in concert with the prospective or enrolled student-athlete.

"When a student-athlete, acting alone or in concert with others, knowingly becomes involved in arranging fraudulent academic credit or false transcripts, regardless of whether such conduct results in an erroneous declaration of eligibility."

If a student-athlete commits an academic offense (such as cheating on a test or plagiarism on a term paper) with no involvement of an institutional staff member, she added, "it would not fall under NCAA rules unless the academic offense results in an erroneous declaration of eligibility and the student-athlete subsequently competes for the institution."


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I'll lol next week when you bitches cry over the media not caring anymore since roys boys walked the straight and narrow.





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What Smith would like unc to investigate, now, is how far back athletics counselors may have been steering athletes to questionable classes, and whether other departments might also be implicated.


Jay Smith is fucking dead man walking.


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"The University, I think, would like to pretend that all problems were introduced in the Butch Davis era," said Smith in an email. "If there's evidence that some of these strange courses were being scheduled and taken by athletes 10 or 15 years ago -- and there have been some tantalizing hints in that direction –that would suggest a much more pervasive and ingrained culture of permissiveness and corner cutting, one that will take a great deal of work to uproot."


holy shit. jordan is making a call to his mafia buddies right now, got another job for em.

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Williams, for one, would like to look forward, not back. He said he's been "disturbed" and "discouraged" by what has occurred, "but at some point it's got to come to an end, and people have got to let us go on. … Mistakes have been made, [but] we're making great steps to improve everything."



i really don't know what to say. sure, roy, we'll just let you "go on". no biggie. keep cheatin'.

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Improper benefits, drug runner alumni on the sidelines, hiring an agent for an assistant coach, hiring an agent to teach classes....the list goes on.


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Dean Smith coached 36 years at unc without ONCE reporting a minor violation. THAT is impossible, my friends. DES is a cheater just like Roy.


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THREE MONTHS before ESPN says it's not a ncaa issue LOL
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THREE MONTHS before ESPN says it's not a ncaa issue LOL


well, you're slowly catching on.

typical of unc-ch*** product. a little slow...

luckily roys boys follwed the straight and narrow,right?
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I see you found my comments. I could stay on that thread all night. Unfortunately I had to leave. LOL
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