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post Jan 23 2012, 02:30 AM
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NC State having their best season ever, but probably not enough to win at unc.
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post Jan 25 2012, 01:32 PM
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Chumps,
living where I live with the cable provider I have I probably get to see more of the non-marquee games than you do- maybe, maybe not. I agree that style of play has a great influence, but I think the league offices of the BE and ACC have different attitudes and points of emphasis that get passed down to the refs. Some of these BE games are almost NBA like under the boards comp[ared to what is allowed in the ACC. That goes with hand-checking (too a lesser degree) as well. I think the boys in Greensboro want a different game, and the two biggest dogs (unc and Duke) have some influence over that, too. A guy from Seton Hall standing under the basket trying to draw a charge against a Georgetown forward isn't the same as a kid from Clemson standing in the same spot trying to draw one against one of Roy's golden children.
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post Jan 25 2012, 05:05 PM
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I agree that style of play has a great influence, but I think the league offices of the BE and ACC have different attitudes and points of emphasis that get passed down to the refs.


Well then you'd be wrong. Points of emphasis come from the national office, not from the conferences. Not only that, but they are included and appended to the rulebook that the NCAA puts out each year. Order one for yourself and see.

Do you really think that the refs are good enough, in the absolute SPLIT SECOND that they have to call a foul, to think "wait a sec, okay, hand checks are a foul in the ACC, SEC, and SoCon, but not the BE, B10, or MEAC. Charges on the other hand are limited to ACC, A-10, and Big-10, but not the SEC, Big East or SoCon"

All of these officials work 7+ conferences. You really think they are good enough to, in split second time, selective enforce different rules for each of those conferences in a CONSISTENT and subtle way? That's your story?
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pertsix   NCSU @unc   Jan 23 2012, 02:30 AM
Lee Corso   Is there a betting line out yet? I would guess it...   Jan 23 2012, 08:27 AM
Champs 5 times   Is there a betting line out yet? I would guess i...   Jan 23 2012, 09:26 AM
staugiedoggie   Is there a betting line out yet? unx -15   Jan 25 2012, 07:45 PM
BaltimoreBuc   yup.............thanks Doug Moe   Jan 23 2012, 10:51 AM
Pookie   pervs only predicting 8? must be skeered. i pred...   Jan 23 2012, 06:36 PM
rachelix   hess eads ayers btw anyone watch syracuse/cincinn...   Jan 23 2012, 09:57 PM
Champs 5 times   ACC refs will be a big shock for syracuse/pitt. ...   Jan 23 2012, 11:13 PM
rachelix   w/e, no ref on an ACC game lets teams run like tho...   Jan 24 2012, 07:08 AM
Champs 5 times   w/e, no ref on an ACC game lets teams run like th...   Jan 24 2012, 08:04 AM
BaltimoreBuc   do you really think officiaiting is consistent aco...   Jan 24 2012, 01:39 PM
Champs 5 times   do you really think officiaiting is consistent ac...   Jan 24 2012, 02:00 PM
rachelix   ayuh at any rate, I'm a girl, and c5t is ar...   Jan 24 2012, 02:12 PM
BaltimoreBuc   Chumps, living where I live with the cable provid...   Jan 25 2012, 01:32 PM
Champs 5 times   I agree that style of play has a great influence,...   Jan 25 2012, 05:05 PM
rachelix   /thread   Jan 25 2012, 02:32 PM
piss'n in the well   ( Clean up on aisle 5. Clean up on aisle 5. )   Jan 25 2012, 03:57 PM
Lee Corso   Do YOU think all games across conferences are call...   Jan 25 2012, 05:31 PM
Champs 5 times   Do YOU think all games across conferences are cal...   Jan 25 2012, 05:46 PM
Lee Corso   I don't think games are called the same at AL...   Jan 25 2012, 05:57 PM
Champs 5 times   Well, the players aren't any better (their RS...   Jan 25 2012, 06:17 PM
Lee Corso   You're the ref, not me. I only observe what I...   Jan 25 2012, 06:49 PM
rachelix   You're the ref, not me. I only observe what ...   Jan 25 2012, 07:38 PM
Champs 5 times   :lol: He wasn't kidding, I've posted he...   Jan 25 2012, 09:17 PM
staugiedoggie   looks like richard howell already has three fouls   Jan 26 2012, 05:40 AM
DevilDJ   looks like richard howell already has three fouls...   Jan 26 2012, 09:43 AM
BaltimoreBuc   so.........these refs are only influenced by the s...   Jan 26 2012, 10:10 AM
Champs 5 times   so.........these refs are only influenced by the ...   Jan 26 2012, 10:22 AM
BaltimoreBuc   Different leagues have different styles of play d...   Jan 26 2012, 10:22 AM
Champs 5 times   Different leagues have different styles of play ...   Jan 26 2012, 10:24 AM
BaltimoreBuc   regardless of the cause, officiating differs from ...   Jan 26 2012, 10:35 AM
Champs 5 times   I still think your 18 fouls a half quota is total...   Jan 26 2012, 11:16 AM
Lee Corso   https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-as...   Jan 26 2012, 12:33 PM
BaltimoreBuc   nice work   Jan 26 2012, 01:01 PM
pertsix   guess they're mad about what we did to them th...   Jan 26 2012, 01:05 PM
piss'n in the well   ^^^What happens when sperm is swallowed during ovu...   Jan 26 2012, 01:49 PM
pertsix   awfully quiet here tonight before the game from pa...   Jan 26 2012, 06:32 PM
staugiedoggie   wolf pack wolf pack   Jan 26 2012, 06:36 PM
Lee Corso   Howell made it 38 seconds without a foul. :lol: ...   Jan 26 2012, 07:20 PM
pertsix   maybe he shouldn't foul.   Jan 26 2012, 07:25 PM
Lee Corso   maybe he shouldn't foul. He didn't on h...   Jan 26 2012, 07:46 PM
pertsix   unc up 17. NCSU has 20. 6 seconds left   Jan 26 2012, 07:52 PM
Dread   staugiedoggie post Today, 05:40 AM Post #25 Me...   Jan 26 2012, 07:53 PM
Lee Corso   If I were a millionaire I would pay Gott any amoun...   Jan 26 2012, 08:01 PM
piss'n in the well   HELL YEAH!!! LMMFAO!!!   Jan 26 2012, 08:04 PM
Champs 5 times   MAN IF ONLY IT WEREN'T FOR THESE CROOKED REFS ...   Jan 26 2012, 08:30 PM
Lee Corso   Howell staying in was a key to any hope State had....   Jan 26 2012, 08:51 PM
Champs 5 times   State was already down ten before he even hit foul...   Jan 26 2012, 08:57 PM
Lee Corso   State was already down ten before he even hit fou...   Jan 26 2012, 09:08 PM
Champs 5 times   They were down 7 with 9:06 to go in the first hal...   Jan 26 2012, 09:22 PM
Lee Corso   So you are saying that NC State played BETTER whe...   Jan 26 2012, 09:40 PM
GoDogGo   LOL at the excuse makers. What a heartless bunc...   Jan 26 2012, 09:15 PM
blueduke   I'll give NCSU credit for not running to the d...   Jan 26 2012, 09:10 PM
Champs 5 times   Roy is now 22-1 vs NCSU. Only a 96% win percentage...   Jan 26 2012, 09:43 PM
rachelix   Send NCSU some of that money to get CJ Leslie...   Jan 26 2012, 09:53 PM
Dread   espn is reporting that Howell picked up another fo...   Jan 26 2012, 10:39 PM
Champs 5 times   Shocking, another NCSU loss and another thread ful...   Jan 26 2012, 10:50 PM
Dread   Apparently Howell has already fouled out of State...   Jan 26 2012, 11:12 PM
CARBUNCLE   ALTHOUGH REFS ARE USUALLY PART OF THE BLAME....NOT...   Jan 27 2012, 12:46 AM
pertsix   State fouls: 14 carolina fouls: 15   Jan 27 2012, 01:28 AM
DevilDJ   State fouls: 14 carolina fouls: 15 Officiating m...   Jan 27 2012, 12:15 PM
wopacker1980   Howell got off the bus with 2 fouls, Pack had no c...   Jan 27 2012, 05:03 AM
Champs 5 times   Love the pack fans complaining. Let's ignore t...   Jan 27 2012, 07:52 AM
Lee Corso   Let's also ignore the fact that the guy ave...   Jan 27 2012, 08:41 AM
Champs 5 times   Sure would have been nice to get 30 minutes out o...   Jan 27 2012, 10:20 AM
82 93 05   And nobody's really bitching about the refere...   Jan 27 2012, 01:10 PM
pertsix   champs, you have to remember, howell was the best ...   Jan 27 2012, 12:13 PM
staugiedoggie   no beef with last night's officiating at all. ...   Jan 27 2012, 01:20 PM
wopacker1980   I will say for Gott that at least he didn't as...   Jan 27 2012, 04:09 PM
pertsix   I will say for Gott that at least he didn't a...   Jan 27 2012, 05:39 PM
blueduke   I will say for Gott that at least he didn't a...   Jan 27 2012, 05:49 PM
Pookie   He left 5 on the court. He didn't know. ...   Jan 27 2012, 08:17 PM


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