paterno = DIrty Options

[blueduke]

...And K isn't even close to one of them

But Roy is. JoePa loved Roy

[Lee Corso]

Heard on the radio yesterday that parts of the Sandusky Bob Costas interview were never released. Recently, a transcript was released. One of Sandusky's comments: "Not EVERY young boy I befriended was a sexual target." Unreal.

btw, Sandusky may take the stand in his defense. His ass is gonna get blistered.


Here's what I heard on the radio...(from espn.com)

Among the Sandusky comments in the transcripts that were not aired on TV was: "I didn't go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I've helped." How that and other statements are interpreted could play a role in the trial that is expected to wrap up this week.

During the interview, which was posted on msnbc.com, Sandusky said that he is a "very passionate person in terms of trying to make a difference in the lives of some young people."

He said that he tried to be something significant in their lives and "maybe this gets misinterpreted."

Costas asks if what he is describing isn't the classic technique used by many pedophiles. "So it's entirely possible that you could've helped young boy A in some way that was not objectionable while horribly taking advantage of young boy B, C, D and E. Isn't that possible?" Costas asked.

Sandusky replied: "Well -- you might think that. I don't know. In terms of -- my relationship with so many, many young people. I would -- I would guess that there are many young people who would come forward. Many more young people who would come forward and say that my methods and -- and what I had done for them made a very positive impact on their life. And I didn't go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I've helped. There are many that I didn't have -- I hardly had any contact with who I have helped in many, many ways."

[Dread]

And I didn't go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I've helped. There are many that I didn't have -- I hardly had any contact with who I have helped in many, many ways."

Jesus H. Friggin Christ

[Lee Corso]

Looks like the Sanduskys are unc fans.



Notice sticker on car

[pertsix]

why would she buy a car that has the steering wheel on the right side

[Lee Corso]

from espn.com...

Judge's statement

"You may believe he exercised poor judgment, but poor judgment in itself does not warrant criminality," he said. He also said that it is "not necessarily a crime to shower with a boy, lather with soap, engage in back rubbing."

say what??

[Pookie]

"not necessarily a crime to shower with a boy, lather with soap, engage in back rubbing in chappa heewl."

nice bumper sticker. i'm not suprised at all.

[pertsix]

you do know that that is not a sandusky vehicle, right?




what a dumbass

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[Lee Corso]

you do know that that is not a sandusky vehicle, right?
what a dumbass

MUST DEFEND!!!

Yes. It's a friend of hers car. Still funny that a Sandusky would show up in a car with a unc sticker on it.

[Dread]

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/06/22/brea...5-of-48-counts/

Should never breath free air again. EVER. Now.....just how deep does the rabbit hole run?

[Pookie]

[Lee Corso]

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Posted: Today 10:00 PM
Absolute possible worst case scenario is true
Is what it is. My children, twins, and their graduation party today. a friend was one of the investigators on this case. there will be from 11 - 30 more victims coming forward. Sandusky had little asterisks behind the names of the victims.
Spanier, Baldwin, Curley, Schultz ,and Joe Paterno were all complicit in a cover up. Joe was mentioned in emails.
Sandusky was forced out and they all knew why. Bradley and Ganter perjured themselves on the stand. thank God they hired outside.
And my friend mentioned if he was not dead Paterno would be arrested. the BOT is right. Joyner is right, and Corbett is right.
It was as bad as the worst accusations. I know this fellow for fifteen years and trust him implicitly. I will answer questions from moderators in pms, but no one else. This stuff might or might not come out, but this person is privy to all the emails, evidence and such. He was actually on television last night when Sandusky came out of the courthouse.

I was at a function today where I had this conversation. I willl not respond more to this thread, only to moderators in pms with the promise of privacy.




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[Dread]

Spanier, Baldwin, Curley, Schultz ,and Joe Paterno were all complicit in a cover up. Joe was mentioned in emails.
Sandusky was forced out and they all knew why. Bradley and Ganter perjured themselves on the stand

Apparently the rabbit hole runs pretty deep.

[Dread]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-21...kids-alone.html

[dkst0426]

Apparently the rabbit hole runs pretty deep.

Always suspected the now-Governor then-State A.G. was involved in the cover-up.

Not that I wish harm upon anyone generally, but may Sandusky reap what he sowed. Of course, now he will probably be held in solitary confinement for his own safety at the expense of Pennsylvania taxpayers.

So after hearing he was guilty of 45 counts and looking it up, did you guys know that the world's longest prison sentence was for 384 thousand years.........for not delivering mail?

[Dread]

Shit Just Got Real.....

Just like the poster above said.....they ALL knew.

[Carlos the Jackal]

Shit Just Got Real.....

Just like the poster above said.....they ALL knew.

It'll be over by Friday.

[blueduke]

A couple of rouges. What's the big deal?

[dkst0426]

Joe Paterno's role in covering up Jerry Sandusky's child molestations grows as evidence is leaked

The email is devastating on multiple levels, perhaps most for Paterno, who had escaped some measure of scorn thus far by having played the, in-hindsight-I-should've-done-more angle. Paterno, who won more games than any other major college football coach, died at age 85 in January of lung cancer.

According to Curley's email, Paterno participated more than he ever admitted, including likely talking Curley – and thus the others – out of the plan to turn Sandusky over to authorities.

Take a second for that one to sink in.

It is now perfectly reasonable to postulate that Joe Paterno protected Jerry Sandusky, who had been a Penn State assistant coach from 1969 until retiring in 1999. Sandusky went right along with his business of showering with boys in the locker room, of bringing kids to the sidelines during games, of sitting in the press/luxury box area of home games. Sandusky used the program's allure like a lollipop to draw kids into his van.

In a 2011 appearance to the grand jury, Paterno said McQueary detailed what he saw in the shower. Within a couple days Paterno relayed the story to Curley over the phone. He said he wasn't involved in the investigation after that.

"Because I figured that Tim would handle it appropriately," Paterno testified on Jan. 12, 2011. "I have a tremendous amount of confidence in Mr. Curley and I thought he would look into it and handle it appropriately."

Curley's email tells a different story, that he discussed with Paterno the plan to bring in child protective services.

Perhaps Curley lied in that original email, although why is anyone's guess. Perhaps Paterno forgot about the meeting (a decade had passed by the time the then 84-year-old testified in front of the grand jury). Or perhaps Paterno was trying to cover his tracks by not mentioning it under oath.

The other possibility is that the meeting did take place and Paterno supported turning Sandusky over to child welfare but Curley, after "giving it more thought," overruled Paterno's position and changed direction.

That one is difficult to believe. Tim Curley was Joe Paterno's boss in title only. Curley grew up in State College in a house just down the street from the current Beaver Stadium. He parked cars and sold programs as a kid. He played football at Penn State and was said to be JoePa's handpicked choice as athletic director years later.

This latest report could really damage former Penn State coach Joe Paterno's legacy. Tim Curley, like so many in State College, stood in awe of Paterno. Forget the organizational chart, he worked for the coach more than the coach worked for him.

The notion that he would ignore Paterno's advice, and then upon doing so never have Paterno question him or later overrule him, is highly unlikely.

There are more details to be sifted through. One is Curley cryptically mentioning he would "tell [Sandusky] we are aware of the first situation."

This seemingly refers to Sandusky being investigated by Penn State police in 1998 for abusing a boy, later known as Victim No. 6, in the showers. The Centre County district attorney at the time chose not to prosecute Sandusky.

While most believe there could be no way that Curley, Schultz and Spanier, let alone Paterno, didn't know about the 1998 investigation when choosing not to act in 2001, this is a smoking gun. It establishes that at least the three administrators did know. And wouldn't Curley have brought it up when discussing Sandusky with Paterno?

It's the most galling and evil part of the CNN revelations. These officials were learning of a second allegation that Sandusky had abused a boy in the showers and yet their reaction wasn't to turn the case over to authorities. Instead they allowed Sandusky to continue to operate on campus, only with the caveat he wasn't supposed to bring children around, an order he routinely violated.

After 1998, you could argue there wasn't much they could do. There was an investigation but no charge. People who work with children are always in fear of such a thing. If the district attorney said there was nothing to it, then you accept there was nothing to it.

Until a similar accusation is made, this time not from a possibly confused kid, but from McQueary, your own 27-year-old, no-reason-to-invent-such-a-story graduate assistant.

In 2001 there was zero excuse to not stop Sandusky. Zero. Penn State's decision was pathetic.

It's a chief reason why Curley and Schultz are facing prison time for failure to report a crime. It's also why Spanier remains a candidate for similar indictment from the attorney general.

Did Spanier realize the stakes of his decision? You bet he did. His email back to Curley concerning not going to child welfare says as much.

"I am supportive," Spanier wrote, according to CNN. "The only downside for us [is] if the message isn't heard and acted upon, and then we become vulnerable for not having reported it."

Graham Spanier is a bad person. That wasn't the "only downside" or even the primary downside of Sandusky not hearing "the message."

The fact that additional children would be abused was the downside. Spanier, ever the self-obsessed top administrator, cared only about his own liability, not some terrified 10-year-old in an empty shower room. At no point, apparently, did anyone write an email about finding the boy McQueary said was being molested.

In hindsight, the smart move would have been to have Sandusky arrested. Viewed from today, Curley, Paterno, et. al. would have been lauded for making the correct decision.

At the time, however, the story would've been about a recently retired defensive coordinator molesting kids in JoePa's locker room.

Paterno was 74 and coming off a 5-7 season. He didn't have much of a team for the foreseeable future, either. Rumblings were growing that it was time for him to retire, that the game had passed him by, that at his age he couldn't handle the responsibilities of a major college football program.

An act of child molestation in the locker room would have only fueled that. When word would have eventually leaked out that in 1998 Sandusky had been investigated for the same charge yet still maintained all-hour access to the facilities, it may have too much for Paterno to survive, let alone explain.

In the precise moment, each of the men must have feared being fired. Even Joe Paterno.

Perhaps that wasn't the case. We may never know and it certainly isn't an excuse for allowing Sandusky to continue. It may explain it, however. Self-preservation is a powerful motivator.

If Sandusky had sought the help they suggested, had he stopped his behavior, had the school not commissioned Louis Freeh to dig through every scrap of information in the football program, a witch hunt that found its witches, they may have gotten away with it.

They didn't, though. Instead, the whole thing gets worse for Penn State. The full report looms. The noose tightens on Curley, Schultz and Spanier.

And Joe Paterno, the beloved saint of the Nittany Lions, is left looking nothing like the man everyone believed he was.

Gregg Doyel ‏@GreggDoyelCBS

Melt JoePa's statue into prison bars for Sandusky.

Death penalties have been meted out by the NCAA for point-shaving, academic fraud, recruiting violations, failure to monitor compliance, and slush fund payments (that one perhaps most relevant, since it the athletic department had ongoing knowledge). What happens to a program covering up child molestation?

This post has been edited by dkst0426: Jul 1 2012, 06:32 PM