Justin Verlander Options

[Lee Corso]

Let's just go ahead and award him the Cy Young.

1st in MLB in wins (9 - tied)
1st in AL in K's
1st in MLB in WHIP
4th in AL in ERA

[Champs 5 times]

How about this guy?

Josh Beckett:

1st in ERA, but this doesn't do him credit. He's almost a FULL RUN BETTER than your guy Verlander, who is in 4th.
1st in hits allowed per 9 innings.
3rd in winning percentage (Verlander is 5th)
1st in WAR (for pitchers)

Here's the key: it's in a division where the average winning percentage is .538, and 4/5 teams are .500 or better. (AL Central has 2/5 teams better than .500, so Detroit really only has to play ONE good team)

[blueduke]

Gotta go with C5T on this one. Beckett has good numbers and is in a legit division. AL Central doesn't scare a whole lot of people

[Lee Corso]

Just a quick glance, but Verlander...in his games...has pitched against better teams than Beckett.

Beckett does pitch very well against the Yankees (twice), which is all that counts in that division.


Plus, the last 5 games Verlander has given up 4 ER averaging over 8 IP per game.
Josh has given up 8 in his last 5 games averaging 7 IP per.

Beckett had a great May. Verlander has turned it up in June.

[Champs 5 times]

Beckett just threw a one hitter And the hit was complete garbage too. Against a team Verlander gave up 6 ER to, btw.

This post has been edited by Champs 5 times: Jun 19 2011, 10:50 PM

[dkst0426]

If Verlander's arm doesn't fall off, he'll be the Cy Young winner. Sorry, Beckett - great numbers and a pretty compelling argument as well, but Verlander is...

...averaging almost a full inning more per game
...striking out more batters
...and perhaps even more impressively for a power pitcher, walking less batters too.

Verlander being the harder thrower is always going to give up more hits than Beckett, because that's what fireballers do.

No love for Weaver?

[wheel]

I got your Weaver love.

[Lee Corso]

I got your Weaver love.

CLASSIC! Thanks, wheel.

"What are you going into the HOF for, Earl? Blowing World Series?" LOL

[Lee Corso]

I'm out on the deck watching the Tigs vs Arizona on mlb tv.

Just another day at the office for Verlander. 8 IP, 0 R, 4 H, 14 K's.

[Lee Corso]

In his last six starts, he's 6-0 with a 0.72 ERA. He's struck out 51 and walked six over that span, which doesn't even include his no-hitter.

[Lee Corso]

Beckett tonight

J Beckett
(L, 6-3) 6.0 5 5 5 1 1 2 84-53 2.20



Yeah, give it to Verlander.

[Champs 5 times]

Verlander gets the nod right now for sure, but eventually he'll pitch against somebody good.

Verlanders last 5 teams pitched against: Arizona, Colorado, Cleveland, Seattle, White Sox

Becketts: Philadelphia, Tampa Bay, NY Yankees, Detroit, Cleveland

Cleveland obv a wash. Yanks are clearly the best offense in the league (and beckett's already had to pitch against them THREE TIMES already). Detroit isn't that far behind. Philly is obviously one of the best teams, on and on.

So I think Verlander will revert to human form once he hits a stretch of games against good teams. Not one game here and there.

[Lee Corso]

Verlander today....

The Mets had scored a team-record 52 runs in their previous four games. Verlander (11-3) held them to one run and seven hits. He finished June with a 6-0 record and a 0.92 ERA

ho hum

[pertsix]

http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=310702106

[pertsix]

Giants, also, are one of the worst hitting teams in the nation.

And then they fired their pitching coach.

[Lee Corso]

http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=310702106

Scherzer has been pitching like crap lately.

Don't know what that has to do with Verlander.

[Lee Corso]

Ho hum. Win #12. 7.2 innings, 0 ER, 9 K's, 0 BB.


And most importantly, by rule, he cannot pitch in the All Star game. Go get 'em Beckett! lol

[Lee Corso]

Verlander wins #19 tonight vs Tampa Bay.
That's 7 wins in his last 7 starts.


• 1st in AL in W (19)
• 1st in AL in IP (209.2)
• 1st in AL in SO (212)
• 2nd in AL in ERA (2.28)
• 1st in AL in WHIP (0.88)
• 1st in AL in W% (.792)
• 2nd in AL in CG (4)

He's got a good chance of winning the pitching triple crown (W's, K's, ERA).
Weaver's ERA is 2.10, Verlander's is 2.28.

Since 1945, the following pitchers have won the triple crown.

So anyone want to argue about the Cy Young award? lol

Sandy Koufax (3 times) 1963, 65, 66
Steve Carlton 72
Dwight Gooden 85
Randy Johnson 2002
Jake Peavy 2007
Roger Clemens (twice) 97, 98
Pedro Martinez 99
Johan Santana 2006

This post has been edited by Lee Corso: Aug 22 2011, 09:58 PM

[Champs 5 times]

So anyone want to argue about the Cy Young award? lol

Nope. Very impressed he kept it up the whole season.

[staugiedoggie]

Nope. Very impressed he kept it up the whole season.

verlander is the best pitcher in baseball. you honestlly feel like he could throw a no-hitter every time he steps on the mound.