Roy's A Cunt Options

[Lee Corso]

Perhaps he's not as smart as he thinks he is?

ya think?

[DevilDJ]

unc Faculty Wants an Outside Review of Athletics and Academics

At a minimum, you have to figure Roy Williams is a bit nervous, given the fact that 23 of his players were enrolled in fraudulent classes. When will Williams admit this might be a basketball issue?After our story examining how many unc basketball players majored in African & Afro-American Studies since Roy Williams took over at Chapel Hill, were heard responses – public and private – about the Tar Heels’ predicament. As you might imagine, some unc fans are not concerned in the least. The Tar Heel Blog chose to look at the numbers this way:

unc basketball players began moving away from AFAM majors under Roy Williams and Walden’s departure had nothing impact since it had essentially already happened two years before.

That certainly is one way to look at it. The number of Tar Heels majoring in AFAM definitely began to dwindle leading up to Walden’s departure in 2009. The obvious follow-up question: Why, especially given how many players majored in it just a few years prior? Coincidence? Something else? We won’t know – may never know – until a judge releases the documents that are tied up in court, or maybe a disgruntled former athlete starts chirping. Which leads to another “why” – why is unc so secretive about the documents?

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[DevilDJ]

Specifically, the carolina Alumni Review points out that Dr. Nyang’oro, the professor (and department head) at the center of the AAS athletic scandal, was employed by the University as a faculty member in 1988. Nyang’oro became the chair of the curriculum at issue in 1992. The carolina Alumni Review also points out that Nyang’oro was the *first* and *only* department head.

As a matter of deduction, that means that African American Studies as a curriculum was created in 1992 when Nyang’oro was designated the first and only chair.

In 1992-1993, the University of North carolina basketball team won the NCAA Men’s Basketball National Championship in New Orleans finishing the year with an impressive 34-4 record.

As you will see, the starting line up for the 1993 National Champion Tar Heels consisted of George Lynch, Brian Reese, Donald Williams, Derrick Phelps, and Eric Montross.

Lynch (Sr): African American Studies
Reese (Jr): Communications (minor in African American Studies)
D. Williams (So): African American Studies
Phelps (Jr): African American Studies
Montross (Jr): Communications

It seems worth pointing out that in the first year a curriculum for African American Studies existed at unc (1992) 4 of 5 members of the starting lineup of the National Championship Basketball team immediately majored/minored in the brand new curriculum with Dr. Nyang’oro at the helm. In just one year, an almost entire team happened to migrate to one particular, and brand new, curriculum?

Amazing.

Perhaps even more amazing is that some of these players were juniors and seniors when the curriculum was created!

There are so many side stories to this “coincidence.”

1) Roy Williams was in Kansas for the 1992/1993 season and for a decade thereafter.
2) Donald Williams was an NC State commitment only to finally sign with Dean Smith and the Tar Heels.
3) Not long thereafter Jerry Stackhouse, a lifelong Wolfpack fan, also signed with unc.
4) Stackhouse, brace yourself, also purportedly majored in African American Studies

There is little doubt to the objective observer that many questions remain unanswered. The scope of the investigation perhaps cannot be broad enough to truly get to the bottom of the questions that linger surrounding the unc athletic department.

To leave you with just a few to chew on:

- Was AAS created at unc specifically for basketball players?

- Was unc tipped off that people were starting to make that connection?

- How many recruits did unc lure away from other schools with promises of easy degrees in the newly created AAS curriculum after its creation under Nyang’oro in 1992?

- Is it fair to just point a finger at Roy Williams or does academic fraud in the athletic department and University as a whole long predate his arrival?

- Did Butch Davis take the fall for a system that existed long before he, too, arrived in Chapel Hill?

- If it worked so long for basketball, why not football? (There’s a cliche about a secret and three people… it’s anecdotal, but it’s likely applicable to a secret and 5 people versus a secret and 75 people.)

- Can the true breadth of the competitive advantage be even comprehended when a coach enters a recruit’s home and speaks of ridiculously over-inflated graduation rates to a superstar’s parents eagerly wanting to hear that “Junior” will earn a degree before he suffers a blown knee?

- Now that there is an immediate trend away from AAS by unc athletes, or at least there was in anticipation of the NCAA investigation as pointed out above, is communications the degree of choice?

- Prior to the creation of AAS, was communications the degree of choice for unc athletes? If so, why then and why a return to that now?

The questions linger, and for now no one at unc seems willing to open up and address them.

The 216 decision lingers, and there seems to be no slowing down to this story anytime soon.

SFN

[Lee Corso]

1992 was about the time DES started recruiting thugaletes. He couldn't screw up his pristine graduation rate, so obviously something had to be done. It is so black and white you can't deny it.

[Pookie]

It is so black you can't deny it.

[DevilDJ]

1992 was about the time DES started recruiting thugaletes. He couldn't screw up his pristine graduation rate, so obviously something had to be done. It is so black and white you can't deny it.

It was ALSO the year that Duke won their second straight national title....THIRD straight national title game too. Oh yeah...something DEFINITELY "had to be done."

[DevilDJ]

MSU fans kickin' Roy around....

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[Dread]

/e looks around

"Y'up, still a c\/nt"

[DevilDJ]

ESPN suddenly seems interested in the unc academic scandal and how it might impact the hoops team. Someone tell Robbi Pickeral to read this site next week

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Jason McIntyre ‏@ TheBigLead
@ joeovies @ RobDauster already regretting the tease. but yes, more coming on unc next week

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Rob Dauster ‏@RobDauster
"interested in unc academic scandal and how it might impact hoops team...read this site next week" @thebiglead. That's called foreshadowing

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Tick Tock , Roy....

[Pookie]

luckily roys boys followed the straight and narrow and the national media doesn't care.

amirite?

[Champs 5 times]

luckily roys boys followed the straight and narrow and the national media doesn't care.

amirite?

Pretty much despite what was written by some blogger who dumbass NCSU fans always derided as a "tarhole through and through"

Fucking retards.

[Pookie]

gettin a bit warm over at the nose dome today, huh, 5*****?

[blueduke]

Penn State isn't a distraction now. unc is in the cross hairs. Pert and C5T can defect all they want but in C5T's case in his heart of hearts he knows it's over. He won't admit it here but he knows. SZ got out of here just in time

[DevilDJ]

Adam with Derek "Sittin' In For Joe Ovies" Medlin talkin' about Roy , the scandal and its involvement with basketball....

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[DevilDJ]

unc's Roy Williams: Mistakes were made

— Roy Williams gave a radio interview earlier Wednesday with Taylor Zarzour and Marc James, who co-host “The Drive” on 610-AM in Charlotte. If you haven’t heard it already, be sure to give it a listen right here.

As you’d expect, Williams was asked for his opinions on the ongoing academic scandal at North carolina, one that started out as an internal investigation of the university’s African and Afro-American Studies department. That investigation, of course, uncovered 54 aberrant AFAM courses, and it raised questions about the role the AFAM department might have played in keeping unc athletes eligible

Here’s what he told Zarzour and James about a variety of topics:

His opinions on the latest developments related to the AFAM scandal, including Peppers’ transcript becoming public:

“Yeah, everybody wants my opinion, I don’t want to give it. This is the good thing about America. You know, I’m bothered by a lot of stuff. I’m bothered by some sensationalism that’s going on. I’m bothered by problems that we have. I’m bothered by mistakes that we have made. But you know, I think in my own opinion it’s best for me to keep my mouth shut and let our administrative people take care of it.

“We’re trying to do a lot of research on our end of it, and the things that we are in control of. We’re going to continue trying to do that. But it’s something that I am bothered by it. I am worried about it. A little discouraged about it to say the least. But the bottom line is, there’s nothing I can do about it. And I do think, I have some very strong opinions and yet as soon as I make some strong opinions or anything, then everybody decides to take their bow and arrow and a shotgun and a machine gun and the bazooka and everything out. But for me, I’m going to wait and see what happens at the end, and let those people that are supposed to be taking care of it, take care of it.

“But it’s not something that I’m enjoying, I can tell you that .”

Whether he was aware of any of these kinds of issues he arrived at unc nine years ago:

“Marc, I’m not sure I understand exactly what you said but I’ll answer it this way – but again I’m not sure exactly what you asked there, and it’s not probably anything wrong with the question, just maybe my intelligence. But you know, when I came back I felt great about the University of North carolina [and] still feel great about the University of North carolina. I got a great education there. My wife did, my son did, my daughter did.

“We’ve been there nine years and I think I’m right in saying this that every senior we’ve had has received their degree. Our kids have done the work , they’ve done some great jobs. Tyler Zeller this year was the academic all-American player of the year. We still emphasize the academic side of it a great deal. It’ll always be that way. So you’re talking to a guy who absolutely loves the University of North carolina. And it’s been that way since the fall of 1968 when I stepped foot on the campus.

“But there have been some mistakes made, I don’t think you can put your head in the sand and say, oh, we’re all right – it’s just people making things up. I’m not saying that. There’s been some mistakes made, and there’s been some serious mistakes. But I do think that some of it has been a little sensationalized, also .”

Being as sure as he can be that things are done the right way in the unc basketball program:

“No question about it. Our track record is pretty doggone good. And our track record has been pretty doggone good for 15 years at Kansas, nine years at North carolina. And we know how much we emphasize the academic side in the basketball office. We know what our guys are majoring in. We know – every day we’re in touch with those kids. So it’s something, again, that I’m very proud of.

“And am I going to sit here and say there is absolutely no way nothing will ever happen? Nothing will ever show up? We don’t know what’s going on every day. I mean, I’ve got 13 to 17 kids, counting the walk-ons and things like that. You don’t know. But boy, I feel really, really good about what’s happened academically in the basketball program since we came.”

So there you have it.

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Don't know 'bout ya'll but if I was a unx fan I'd be sweatin' a bit right now. Those aren't exactly the most reassuring comments. Tick...Tick...Tick...Tick...Tick...

[Pookie]

[The White Spot]

Yo Yo Yo,

Walk-ons?

No coach worries about walk ons.

At unc this equates into white boys that make grades and have connections. Roy isn't worried about those guys one bit.

But he could expand his magnitude and size of worry. Coach Butch mentioned not being able to watch over 25,000 plus students when he came into the cross hairs so maybe Roy missed the talking points.

Roy must worry about keeping 7-9 black players eligible to play basketball. That is it, nothing more and nothing less.

Edit note: he did need to worry about mouth breather a few years ago so it isn't completely a racial issue. (only 98% though)

Peace out

Sheed

[Carlos the Jackal]

unx should give roy a vote of confidence.

[BaltimoreBuc]

just checkin- yup, still a CUNT

[The White Spot]

Yo Yo Yo,

In Swahili dat makes him a "uke".

Peace out

Sheed