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DevilDJ
post Dec 1 2009, 09:31 PM
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As we all know,Roy (being the petty little betch that he is) used a portion of his book to grind an axe against a kid (Delvon Roe) who dared to either:

a) Refuse to committ during a visit to unx or...

b) Committ under duress then renege a few weeks later. Regardless,here's the tale....
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Anyway, Blanton said he and Roe visited North carolina together once, then Roe went by himself on a visit for the unc-Duke game. Blanton said Williams wanted Roe to commit before the game to get the team hyped. Roe called Blanton. Blanton strictly forbid him from committing.
"I said, 'You're not down there to commit, you're there to watch a game,'" Blanton recalled. "I don't know if he was scared to say no because Roy was pressuring him or what. I don't know exactly what happened after that. He might have committed, Roy might be telling the truth. But he wasn't ready to commit and he shouldn't have been pressured like that.
"Delvon still loved Michigan State and a few weeks later, when he was home and he could think about the decision without someone in his face, he realized that's where he wanted to go."
Roe had a hard time summoning the courage to tell Williams, Blanton said. Blanton told him he had to make the call. He did, and Blanton said Williams started yelling on the other end.
"I don't know exactly the words he was saying, but he was upset," Blanton said of Williams. "He started going off on Delvon. I mean, Delvon's an 11th-grader, he's shook up. So I grabbed the phone and said, 'Let me tell you something, you never disrespect my son like that.'"

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It seems that in recruiting, kids change their mind all the time. It's not often, though, that you see coaches calling them out publicly for it. Especially coaches who can go snag an Ed Davis five minutes later and basically get 99 percent of the players they want.


Roy = POS

"You're fukking my program," rebuttal commencing in 5...4...3... rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 1 2009, 09:37 PM
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Roy's a bigger POS then I thought. You reap what you sow, Roy.
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post Dec 1 2009, 10:05 PM
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Gee, where could ol roy have learned such behaviour?
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post Dec 1 2009, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE(DevilDJ @ Dec 1 2009, 09:31 PM) *

As we all know,Roy (being the petty little betch that he is) used a portion of his book to grind an axe against a kid (Delvon Roe) who dared to either:

a) Refuse to committ during a visit to unx or...

b) Committ under duress then renege a few weeks later. Regardless,here's the tale....


Commit under DURESS? WOW PRESSURE FROM A COACH TO COMMIT? This world really is populated with crybabies.

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"I said, 'You're not down there to commit, you're there to watch a game,'" Blanton recalled. "I don't know if he was scared to say no because Roy was pressuring him or what. I don't know exactly what happened after that. He might have committed, Roy might be telling the truth. But he wasn't ready to commit and he shouldn't have been pressured like that.


If the kid commited it would have been his choice. NO MATTER what anybody else says including his dad or Roy. All coaches pressure them to select their school. He apparently said yes and then later changed his mind.

Of course you did talk all about Barnes and his mom changing his mind so I'm sure you have no trouble buying into this at all.
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post Dec 2 2009, 12:36 AM
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Commit under DURESS? WOW PRESSURE FROM A COACH TO COMMIT? This world really is populated with crybabies.

Roy Williams being "Exhibit A." "Crybaby," indeed. Blasting a teenager in his book. Klassy.
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If the kid commited it would have been his choice. NO MATTER what anybody else says including his dad or Roy. All coaches pressure them to select their school. He apparently said yes and then later changed his mind.

Wait a minute. There's different kinds of "pressure." Roy puts on the full court press. Hey,ain't like it doesn't get results but Geez Louise. rolleyes.gif Is it an unbearable admission to think that maybe,just maybe!, Roy's style of applying "pressure" can be too aggressive? Obnoxious and pushy,even? BTW,I think Roe did,in fact,commit. But Roy bullied the kid into it. Rather than realize that,Coach Bristle-Shucks held a grudge like the little betch that he is. The POS just HAD to show Delvon what happens when ya don't please "good ol' Roy." rolleyes.gif
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Of course you did talk all about Barnes and his mom changing his mind so I'm sure you have no trouble buying into this at all.

I don't have to "buy" into anything. Roy wrote about it. That's a fact. Did he commit? Did he not? I'm not even arguing that. In fact,I already said that the kid probably reneged. That makes absolutely no difference though. Heck,the only thing that we're asked to "buy into" is whether or not Roy was pizzed and did he scream at a 17 year old like a raving lunatic...so much so that the poor youth had to put his dad on the phone to get Roy in line. You know as well as I do that ain't a tough sell.
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post Dec 2 2009, 12:57 AM
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What's the aim of this thread? Are carolina fans supposed to be...bothered? Feel guilty about rooting for the heels? Be stunned that a college coach's public persona is just that- a persona? Because all this looks like is ABCer jerk-off fodder, but hell, maybe there's something bigger going on.
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post Dec 2 2009, 09:11 AM
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This affair and roy's book were discussed at some length yesterday on ESPN Radio (Sirius).

Didn't get the commentator's name ph34r.gif ...but the thrust of the issue was roy's lack of class and his use of the book to dis the kid.

Typical and not unexpected from roy.
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post Dec 2 2009, 10:41 AM
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What's the aim of this thread?

Just posting additional evidence that Roy is,indeed,a cunt that's all. BTW,if K did something similar,dollars to doughnuts,there'd already be a thread here about it (started by your fukked up fanbase,of course!) and multiple multi-page threads about it at I diot C entral.
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Are carolina fans supposed to be...bothered? Feel guilty about rooting for the heels?

No one expects tarhole fans to be "bothered" by this. If they were,they wouldn't be tarhole fans.
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Be stunned that a college coach's public persona is just that- a persona?

That's a diplomatic way of saying that he's as phony as a 3 dollar bill. Musta been quite the catharsis to concede that. Props. That said,he's always been full of shet yet your fanbase buys into that "good ol' boy" routine hook,line and sinker while demonizing K at every turn. It's contrived bs designed to make him look less like the preck that he actually is.
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Because all this looks like is ABCer jerk-off fodder, but hell, maybe there's something bigger going on.

"ABCer jerk off fodder?" Yeah. Right. That's exactly what it is. Please. rolleyes.gif It LOOKS like exactly what I said it is.....just more evidence of Roy's douche-baggery. But,hey,I'm guessing that it's just us here at c-sux who see it,right....?
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In a side story that barely made headlines before North carolina's win over Michigan State on Tuesday, Roy Williams' fielded some questions about his recruitment of Spartans sophomore Delvon Roe.

I haven't read it, but Williams made some comments in his new book about how a recruit told him he was coming to unc, but then later decided to go to MSU. Williams said that the player "lied" to him. He doesn't name the player by name but it's obvious he's talking about Roe.

"I didn't say Delvon lied," Williams reiterated when asked about the comments Tuesday night. "Go back and read it, well but I don't mind saying it, he told me he was coming. Let's be honest. He told me he was coming, he didn't come.

"But understand one thing don't make a bigger story than it is, because I love the kid and still think he's a wonderful kid."

It was pretty funny to hear Roy change his mind about his response mid-response. It's almost like he said to himself, "Oh what the hell they know I was talking about Roe."

Before Roy talked about Roe in this audio he talked about how he nearly wanted to shoot Deon Thompson at one point in the game. Good thing Ol' Roy wasn't packing.

Summer's Eve

Good Lord. rolleyes.gif Roy talks so much shet he can't keep it all together. "Hey Delvon,I jus' wanted ya to know that the lil ol' hissy fit I threw in my book was in no way intended to make ya look bad or throw ya under a bus or anything. I still luv son." Crock. Of. Shet.
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post Dec 2 2009, 10:55 AM
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No one expects tarhole fans to be "bothered" by this. If they were,they wouldn't be tarhole fans.


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post Dec 2 2009, 11:54 AM
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No one expects tarhole fans to be "bothered" by this. If they were,they wouldn't be tarhole fans.


Ok, is this supposed to bother me? You did use the word "tarhole". That's got a negative connotation around here.

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That's a diplomatic way of saying that he's as phony as a 3 dollar bill. Musta been quite the catharsis to concede that. Props.


Do you operate under the assumption that when K speaks in a public venue, you're seeing anything but a persona? You're not usually dense, so I tend to think you don't. Good use of "catharsis", by the way. Props, even.

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"ABCer jerk off fodder?" Yeah. Right. That's exactly what it is. Please. It LOOKS like exactly what I said it is.....just more evidence of Roy's douche-baggery.


Which is not ABCer jerkoff fodder...how? You're not saying anything that hasn't been said here before, you're just posting the sort of thing Blueduke/dread/etc like to read.
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post Dec 2 2009, 01:19 PM
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WOw, the feksticks can't even defend roy. (Can't defend the indefensible I always say). Like to read it? LOVE to read it. Anything that (accurately and honestly) portrays unc in a negative light is a good read.

But hey, you asked,

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Do you operate under the assumption that when K speaks in a public venue, you're seeing anything but a persona?


I believe the folks over at the V Foundation would take exception to your veiled innnuendo. Now, if you could so kindly point out which branch of the dean e. smif charitable corporation roy works / raises money / does appearances for......

Oh wait.....
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post Dec 2 2009, 02:08 PM
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I believe the folks over at the V Foundation would take exception to your veiled innnuendo. Now, if you could so kindly point out which branch of the dean e. smif charitable corporation roy works / raises money / does appearances for......


I'd expect better evasion tactics from a military man.
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post Dec 2 2009, 02:24 PM
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Again, unc types point out that K swears " OH NOES " like it's revelations from on high. Then when roy goes all bitchcakes on some kid it's the usual deny, divert, obfuscate.

My point remains, K, for all his warts does massive amounts of charity work for the V foundation. Could you be so kind as to point out what roy does for the dean e. smif charitable institution?
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post Dec 2 2009, 03:33 PM
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Again, unc types point out that K swears " OH NOES " like it's revelations from on high. Then when roy goes all bitchcakes on some kid it's the usual deny, divert, obfuscate


If you can find a post with me chastising K for swearing, I'll be pretty surprised.

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My point remains, K, for all his warts does massive amounts of charity work for the V foundation. Could you be so kind as to point out what roy does for the dean e. smif charitable institution?


Your views on the merits of charity seem pretty inconsistent with your perspectives on redistribution of wealth. Do you feel it's compulsory for the rich to give back? If not, why do you care? Giving money is nice, but you're naive if you think K doesn't know there's good press for him in the deal.
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QUOTE(Hanstravel @ Dec 2 2009, 03:33 PM) *

... you're naive if you think K doesn't know there's good press for him in the deal.

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Your views on the merits of charity seem pretty inconsistent with your perspectives on redistribution of wealth.


Dread is very consistent. He wants charity to be voluntary as it has been for 250 years. If he wants to "redistribute" his wealth, he will.
Knowing Dread, I can guarantee if he made $3 million per year he'd be very benevolent.
He can correct me if I'm wrong.
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post Dec 2 2009, 04:18 PM
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Lee is correct. If I won the lottery I'd pay off my parents house's, mine, fix up my BMW...

and fek I dunno. Maybe buy season tickets to State and throw the mother of all carolina SUCKS party?

Oh and I'd be out of the military. (their rule not mine)
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post Dec 2 2009, 06:27 PM
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Hans say what you want but the thing is if he yelled at the kid on the phone, that's bad enough. but he just couldn't stop there. He had to denigrate the kid in his book. If I were Roe's dad Roy would be wearing two slings about right now
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post Dec 2 2009, 07:10 PM
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Dread is very consistent. He wants charity to be voluntary as it has been for 250 years.


Then why would it be a problem if roy doesn't want to give back, A, and B, unless any of you have the man's tax return handy, I'm pretty sure you have no idea what he does with his money.

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Hans say what you want but the thing is if he yelled at the kid on the phone, that's bad enough. but he just couldn't stop there. He had to denigrate the kid in his book.


Tough sh!t. Top level college sports are a business. In "March to Madness", K says he was unable to feel the same way about Baron Davis after Baron complained when K didn't call him (this is while duke was recruiting him) during the week K's mom died. Do you find it wrong that K painted Baron in a somewhat unsympathetic light? I don't. Top recruits live public lives from the time their fifteen years old. Don't want to risk bad press? Stay of the Great American Sports Machine. Otherwise, buck up and roll with the punches.
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post Dec 2 2009, 07:16 PM
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I'm pretty sure you have no idea what he does with his money.


I'm pretty sure roy doesn't give of his time/ money to charities.

PROVE ME WRONG.

(*) I am aware that dean e. smif contributed a whopping $2500 or so to sleazely. (or some other liberal ass stupid fek candidate)
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