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post Sep 9 2011, 01:29 PM
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Luckily I haven't seen any of the ones shoved down your tiny throat.



Well, not tiny anymore.






The difference is that the average student at nc state is less intelligent than those at unc.
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That's similar to when atheists get pissed at Christians for using the Bible to prove the Bible correct. I really am utterly shocked at your ability to consistently raise the bar on how stupid a carolina fanboy can really be. Wow. Just wow.




So are you an atheist or Christian? This could be taken two different ways
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post Sep 9 2011, 04:52 PM
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Wait, wait, wait... so to prove my math wrong as to why mean-averages can't be taken at face value to determine what the "average" student is, you use.... another mean-average as proof?



First off, your argument has no mathematical merit. Way to dodge AGAIN by pointing out a typo (it's pretty obvious I meant to use "it" instead of "is". Feel free to actually address the point, but try to bring something to the table.

You used a terrible example to talk about how somehow the average score doesn't represent the average student. You proposed the median instead (they're nearly identical). What you neglect to realize, however, is that the SAT is DESIGNED so that the average scores represent the average student. The test is standardized. Judging from this conversation, I don't think you have any idea what that means.
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post Sep 9 2011, 06:41 PM
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post Sep 12 2011, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE(Champs 5 times @ Sep 9 2011, 05:52 PM) *

You used a terrible example to talk about how somehow the average score doesn't represent the average student. You proposed the median instead (they're nearly identical).


...and again, this is your logic. What I gave you was a perfectly SOUND example. You can argue validity, but the effect is sound and the statistical effect is correct. The only way you can make a valid statement that the mean and median are nearly identical is if you are also going to tell me that the standard deviation is extremely small... in other words, if you have a University full of nothing but "average" students.

If you want to assume NC State is full of nothing but "average" students with 1186 scores and unc is full of nothing but "average" students with 1250 scores, then you are completely correct that any given student is probably smarter from unc because that would be the only way you could know for a fact that the mean and median are almost identical.

However, because of how intelligent you champion yourself to be, I know you wouldn't agree that this assumption is accurate. I don't know how much clearer I can make it so I'll give you the last word to respond or to just resort to name-calling and baseless intelligence-bashing. The carolina Way!

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post Sep 12 2011, 12:15 PM
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The gift that keeps on giving. Thanks!

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...and again, this is your logic. What I gave you was a perfectly SOUND example.


No, it's not sound. This is what I am trying to tell you. The distribution you described wasn't even close to standard normal. The distribution of scores, (even if tests weren't curved to be normal, which they ARE, the central limit theorem guarantees a normal distribution

The distribution CANNOT look like that, because of sample size. It MUST look like this:

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So your example is irrelevant.

By the way, did you skip this post?

NCSU 2010 median: 1185
NCSU 2010 mean: 1186

Those aren't predictions. Those are the ACTUAL VALUES. Gee, that sure does look similar to me. Especially considering the median could ONLY end in 0 or 5. There are no assumptions at all here.

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post Sep 12 2011, 01:23 PM
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these dudes dont even realize when people are making fun of them.



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post Sep 12 2011, 01:27 PM
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QUOTE(Pookie @ Sep 12 2011, 02:23 PM) *

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Must...De...Fend...


"Shit... carolina is the only thing going for me in life... I can't stand around while someone posts insulting things! I better start Wikipedia-ing the topic so I can argue about it!!! INTO THE BREECH"
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QUOTE(NCStatePride @ Sep 12 2011, 02:27 PM) *

"Shit... carolina is the only thing going for me in life... I can't stand around while someone posts insulting things! I better start Wikipedia-ing the topic so I can argue about it!!! INTO THE BREECH"
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"I just absolutely owned in math by someone who went to a school that I think is bad at math, so I, uh...will change the subject real quick!"
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QUOTE(NCStatePride @ Sep 12 2011, 02:53 PM) *

...engRish!



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hear! hear!

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here! here!

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QUOTE(NCStatePride @ Sep 12 2011, 02:53 PM) *

...engRish!


got me.

In which case, allow me to repost (now doubly correct!):

"I just GOT absolutely owned in math by someone who went to a school that I think is bad at math, so I, uh...will change the subject real quick!"

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post Sep 12 2011, 02:06 PM
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Better... I still maintain my previous stance on any kind of argument/debate: generally speaking, anyone who uses "FACE" or "OWNED" to explain how they won an argument generally doesn't really know what they're talking about. Keep telling yourself that you just proved your point, though. It's good for the ego.

EDIT: And no matter what, you still look smarter than THIS guy...

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post Sep 12 2011, 02:10 PM
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You are an idiot. No one listens to you. A beta male, frankly
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post Sep 12 2011, 02:33 PM
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You quoting dread the dickhead is unsurprising, considering the quality of education and maturity prevalent in both persons
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QUOTE(NCStatePride @ Sep 12 2011, 03:07 PM) *

Better... I still maintain my previous stance on any kind of argument/debate: generally speaking, anyone who uses "FACE" or "OWNED" to explain how they won an argument generally doesn't really know what they're talking about. Keep telling yourself that you just proved your point, though. It's good for the ego.



Oh I know I haven't proved it to you. I probably couldn't prove to you that the sun came up today, or that the sky is blue. But sure, feel free to find an error in the argument.

It just amuses me when somebody calls into question what I do for a living. Then, when the obvious errors are pointed out, they continue to boast instead of taking their licking and moving on in a new topic.
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QUOTE(Champs 5 times @ Sep 12 2011, 03:53 PM) *

It just amuses me when somebody calls into question what I do for a living.


You analyze standardized tests for a living? blink.gif
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You analyze standardized tests for a living? blink.gif


I'm a statistics analyst. Standardized tests are just a simple example.
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