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post Dec 13 2014, 12:48 PM
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No, I did not attend any of the numerous Watch Parties held for Friday night’s Butch Does ESPN’s Outside The Lines Show. I prefer to watch such extravaganzas from the comforts of my Home Theater.

ESPN had two of its current employees – “The Butcher of Kenan” and “The Right Reverend Mack Brown” on adjacent stools being queried by some guy from OTL. As I’m sure you all already know – Butch & Mack “Went Sgt. Schultz” sans the German army helmets.

As Butch “pled the Schultz” I wondered where are NASCarl Torbush and Burly John Bunting? I figure either (1) Carl and John not being ESPN employees might have expected travel expenses, or (2) ESPN OTL only had two stools.

I don’t know if they used the same stool that Rashad McCants used when he was on OTL some months ago. I’ll have to ask BalBiz the next time we chat.

Butch “knew absolutely nuthin’ about nuthin’ especially nuthin’ about any Powerpoint presentation” explaining how the Crowder Scheme operated. Wonder what that infamous Powerpoint presentation would bring on ebay? You know PackPride would pay Mega-$$$$ for it.

No, the ESPN OTL guy did NOT ask Butch if he knew his long-time best friend John Blake or where the heck John Blake is these days. I wanted to call-in to see if Butch knew "Jon Sasser" but they weren't taking call-ins. Maybe I'll try to get on Paul Finebaum Show and ask Paul if he knows "Jon Sasser" or John Blake.

Mack not only knew nuthin’ about any of that, I got the feeling Mack wasn’t too sure who Butch was. As Mack confirmed he "don't know nuthin' 'bout nuthin either" I wondered how many gnarly old TruBlues were glaring at their TV screens muttering "he (Mack) lied to dem boys".

All that this made-for-ESPN gala lacked was Lebron James announcing he was ”takin’ my game to Miami” OR Geraldo openin’ Al Capone’s vault...... I think I'll ask my buddy Boz to check with CEO John Skipper for the next time ESPN plans to have Butch on to say "I don't know nuthin'"? Was this a sweeps week or sumpthin'?

Meanwhile over on TMZ, Kim Kardashian was announcing she was tired of her Big Butt look and was going “flat butt”. TRUE STORY! It will be interesting to see which TV Tell All garners the highest ratings.

Oh, for the record.... neither The Butcher nor Reverend Mack were wearing “I Can’t Breathe” t-shirts. We are left on our own to speculate if the two former unc Football Coaches are (1) “radical right-wing racists” or (2) “radical left-wing anarchists”. In America / Dec 2014, those are your only two choices.

If you thought that ESPN thingy (and Kim K's big announcement) was ALL that happened on Friday you are sooooo out-of-the-loop.

As I announced in a comment on the “Suppose Nothing” column, I had yet another Incredibly Insightful Insider Lunch on Friday. It was at Hickory Tavern in the charmingly Bohemian Chapel Hill sister-city of Carrboro. The same building where some disconsolate misfit toy threatened to jump off the 9th floor roof earlier this Fall until my Good Sports partner Art Chansky “talked him off the ledge”. That AC actually “talked him off the ledge” is cloaked in mystery. It’s a good story so I’m going with it.

Gathered there Friday were “me” (the Internet Legend), “Mary & Jay” (The Whistleblower & The Dissident) and a retired unc Admin of considerably credible repute. Unlike me, Mary and Jay.... the credible retired unc Admin would prefer NOT to be threatened and called obscene names on monkey boards so he/she will remain anonymous.

The Anonymous Retired unc Admin (ARuncA) was curious about “Mary & Jay” and wanted to confirm his/her supportive opinions about their Noble Quest. Such confirmation was garnered over a delightful lunch.

ARuncA is understandably distraught over the “House Of Cards” that has been revealed at unc and is of the opinion that a thorough dismantling of said HoC is needed before healing can begin.

The Quite Dead Horse Concept of a Southern Ivies Conference was beaten around as it has been so often over the decades. A Southern Ivies Conference has even less of a chance at ever happening as “more good clean TV shows like Bonanza and Gunsmoke” have of ever popping up on your HDTV screen.

We also advanced an equally silly concept of a National Public Ivy League in which only student-athletes who can read the opening line of Moby Dick can play. That NPIL, for now, would only be unc, UVA, and Michigan. Michigan is currently coach-less and at UVA none of the horny fraternity boys would be allowed to play. Our concept has a ways to go before we unveil our logo.

So how many 5-star blue-chippers you think can actually read "Call me Ishmael."

How many “sports bars” do you think there are in the Chapelboro metro area? Somewhere between “a lot” and “a whole lot” depending on how many big screen TVs it takes to qualify as a sports bar. Hickory Tavern has 53. That qualifies. Lets say there’s “at least a dozen”. So which of those dozen places does the unc Athletic Academic Support Gang choose for their Holiday Party at noon on Friday? BINGO!

WHOA BL.... isn’t the unc Athletic Academic Support Gang the same bunch that ...... and that ....... and that also ...... ? Yep, that be them. Was BB The Blogger that hates Mary so much there?

I’ve never seen or met BB The Blogger so I wouldn’t know. Mary saw him when he walked by our booth. He did a horrified double-take when he saw “HER”.


Alls we needed at that point was for a C-Blue Prius to crash thru the front door and pour out – Tiny Little Carol – The Very Ethical Jan Boxill – Dean Provost Dean – Jeff The Vice Chanc of Spin – Ken The $950/hr Investigator - Trydeke – Melvin – Debbie Don’t Do Lunch – Jennifer The Tutor – and about a dozen whiney misfit toys carrying votive candles in support of free-range chickens.

What does it say that I keep finding myself in these Whoop-de-Do situations so often that I kind of expect’em now. I had a Reuben and Mary had a Veggie Burger with no onion. ARuncA had a fruit salad. I forgot what Jay had.

I think I’ll contact BalBiz now about those stools. I wonder if she will say..... “I don’t know NUTHIN’ about Nuthin’ ‘bout no stools.” Surely not BalBiz.

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Anyone heard anything about this? I don't follow the women's game but I recall thinking it kinda odd that unx would lose such a highly-rated recruit to transfer. From the "COMMENTS" section...
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post Dec 13 2014, 07:41 PM
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The "COMMENTS" section of the Bob Lee blogs are becoming as informative as anything he decides to write about...
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I must have seen a different OTL. After spending half the time on Adrian Peterson they spent a little bit of time with Butch. I have to admit he (Butch) made a good point when he said "if no one else caught it in 18 years how was he suppose to catch it" (paraphrasing). I do wish someone would ask him about hiring Jennifer Wiley for his son, especially after we have found out that she gave all the money to Greg Little. They also noted that Davis reduced the number of "exceptions" recruited to unc. My gosh - with the likes of Greg Little and Marvin Austin, who in the world were they recruiting before?

We are long over due for lunch at "The Pit" btw. My treat of course.
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That "plausible deniability" line-of-thinking loses weight when one factor in the Head Coach's contractual responsibilites re: academics.

Not being up-to-date on every minute detail is not the same as being aware of a fairly large scam involving your own staff academic people. FB has its own academic staff beyond the Official Acad-Ath Support bureaucracy. THEY KNEW about Deborah's Scheme.

As I delve into all this, I've learned there are ways to get "exceptions" in without them being counted as exceptions. "Everybody does it".
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post Dec 13 2014, 11:18 PM
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Ironic moment of year: I just walked into sports restaurant for department holiday party, see Jay Smith, Mary Willingham at same restaurant.

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@coachstokey @BethelLearning The guy unc paid a fortune to get the bottom of this thanked us for our reporting. Time to move on, folks.

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@_andrewcarter When my documentary film gives a voice to those whose stories have been excluded and misrepresented, you won't be so smug.

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post Dec 14 2014, 12:16 AM
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Ley posted this around 4pm Saturday afternoon so hopefully he'll include the Kane and Ridpath segments omitted earlier this week. He DID add their Twitter handles so it seems likely both will be heard this time...
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OTL 8am ESPN2 frmr @GoHeels fb coach Butch Davis on massive acadmc scandal. @dankanenando @ESPNDanaOneil @drridpath join me. Set Your DVR.

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Podcast of Part 1. 13:00 minute mark.
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post Dec 14 2014, 08:35 AM
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Ridpath , O'Neal and Kane eviscerated unx. laugh.gif Bubba Cunningham is a joke. Said the bs classes weren't so bad given that players only took about 3 each. rolleyes.gif O'Neal rightly said one is too much and Kane said many players took more than just 3 classes worth of fraudulent horse shet. Ridpath said it was LOIC. The podcast should be up soon.
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post Dec 14 2014, 09:05 AM
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@BobLeyESPN @ESPNAndyKatz @dankanenando @ESPNDanaOneil @drridpath Jesus Christ its time to move on!! Its over and done with.

B. David Ridpath ‏@drridpath

@markyd0522 @BobLeyESPN @ESPNAndyKatz @dankanenando @ESPNDanaOneil not even close. Still have ncaa.

krista crisp ‏@kristacrisp

@BobLeyESPN ncaa isn't going to do anything. And it's not the biggest scandal in the history of the world either quit being so dramatic.

Bob Ley ‏@BobLeyESPN

@kristacrisp check back in 6 months.

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QUOTE(DevilDJ @ Dec 14 2014, 08:35 AM) *

Ridpath , O'Neal and Kane eviscerated unx. laugh.gif Bubba Cunningham is a joke. Said the bs classes weren't so bad given that players only took about 3 each. rolleyes.gif O'Neal rightly said one is too much and Kane said many players took more than just 3 classes worth of fraudulent horse shet. Ridpath said it was LOIC. The podcast should be up soon.


Is there video/audio of this available yet? Post the link when it is!!!! biggrin.gif
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post Dec 14 2014, 05:18 PM
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Butch / OTL / TGU etc. 2.0

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Dec 14,’14: It’s Sunday and ESPN is running a Butch Davis Marathon. There’s Butch – The Miami Years on 30/30 simultaneous with Butch – the unc Scapegoat on OTL TWICE. Is there a Butch – The Cleveland Years somewhere? Is Butch trolling for the Michigan job?

Butch aside, there’s no such thing as too much Great Unpleasantness on The Worldwide Leader. In addition to Double Butcher there was “That Damn” Dan Kane and there’s even “that other” Bob Ley LIVE from Bristol.

And later today we get JOHNNY MANZIEL’S NFL DEBUT. Is this a Lalapalooza Sunday or What?

If you missed Butch Weekend on ESPN - Part One, you might want to start here (LINK). This sequel picks up from where Part One ends.

INSERT: “That other” Bob Ley on ESPN also has a beard but spells his name as two words and its “Ley”. He also wears a suit. I have a suit but only get it out to deliver eulogies, which I seem to do more and more often lately. ..... OK, back to Butch / ESPN OTL 2.0....

Yes, Butch continued in “Sgt. Schultz” mode from the previous OTL show. Mack was gone and Butch was no longer on a stool but rather in what appeared to be some lawyer-type office.

I’m going to upset some of you (NOOO !!!) by agreeing with The Butcher on a coupla points.

Yes.... there WAS a “Let’s blame everything on Butch The Carpetbagger and hope that’ll make this all go away before it leaks into The Holy of All Holies aka “Basketball”.

Of course there was. 8,000,000,000 Chinese all knew THAT from the get-go.

There has always been an influential faction on Franklin Street that would “like” to see unc FB be successful; but their passion and personal self-worth has since 1957 been 99% invested in unc Basketball. That faction is equal parts Faculty and Fat Cats. No one refutes that sick reality.

That sizable faction was distraught about Marvin, et al but only for the (HIGHLY unlikely) possibility that the septic runoff from Marvin, Greg, Jennifer could conceivably seep onto the hallowed hardwood beneath the sacred rafters. That “they” would throw Butch The Carpetbagging Mercenary under the bus to save Ol’ Roy and You Know Who is a given.

Choo Choo versus MJ ??
Mercenary Carpetbagger Butch vs DEAN & Ol' Roy ??
Belk Bowls vs National Championship Banners ??
Game - Set - Match to Basketball every time.


Butch made that very easy for’em by all the stoopid shenanigans involving John Blake with the agent crap and the bling and this and that and whatever.... and all that earlier stuff that micro-manager Butch “didn’t know nuthin’ about”.

Butch treats anything and everything that ever happened during his unc tenure like some Etch-A-Sketch that he turned upside down and completely erased. Don’t we all wish it were so easy to do that? I have a few pair of bell-bottoms and a pair of corfam loafers I wish I could “know nuthin’ about”, don’t you?

When Holden canned Butch, the Deborah/Julius Scheme was just an itty bitty dot on the CT scanner. Julius had only lied to Holden once at that time. He eventually lied to Holden a LOT more than once, but Butch was long gone by then.

This OTL was about The Scheme so you may have noted there was naught re: Marvin, et al. I know it gets hard to keep four plus years of convoluted crap straight, especially with a poor memory such as Butch’s.

The Sunday OTL featured Bubba’s infamous statistical granny knot interview on a local sports talk show. That was NOT BubbaTheRealAD’s finest hour. Hey, it happens to all of us. I'm sure he's said a few Hail Marys and lit a few candles over that oops.

Of course, no unc Admin would dare appear on OTL. There was a written statement by some yahoo that is Assistant TO Vice Chancellor for Spin & Obfuscation. For $400,000, we don’t get THE Joel Curran.... we get his stunt double. OUCH!

Reminder: The CEO of ESPN – John Skipper is, of course, a mid-70s graduate of Ye Olde Flagship. Isn’t EVERYBODY whose ANYBODY on The Planet a uncer? There are dozens of other uncers w/ ESPN. Far more than with The N&O if anyone's counting. Does that mean ESPN treats unc with kid gloves? ABCers will always think so. Regardless, we here at BLSays do so love all conspiracy theories.

IMO, Bob Ley used Butch because he was available and an ESPN employee plus Butch likes to do his Sgt Schultz act at the drop of a hat. Whether Jimma Sexton thinks it might help Butch get an interview at Michigan or Wisconsin, who knows.

I’m sure ESPN would rather have had Ol’ Roy on the griddle. Who wouldn’t? Squeezing Roy live on-air would be Must-See TV for sure.

The Scheme was originally conceived as a Basketball-specific Eligibility vehicle. Deborah Crowder and the late Burgess McSwain hatched it to help Dean / Gut / Matt / Roy boyz maneuver thru unc’s vaunted academic labyrinth. Hiding a dozen or so Rasheeds, Rashads, Touches, Raymonds, Seans, Majhtars in the bureaucratic swamp was easy. When it expanded to do likewise for the less academically-inclined Footballers it became cumbersome.... and well, you see what happened.

Running a Scheme like this one is like an embezzler who starts out pilfering a few dollars out of petty cash.... and he gets away with that. Then first thing you know he’s forging purchase orders and invoices and sooner / later he’s lost control of his scheme. Burgess and Deborah’s little “way to help Dean because Dean is, well, he’s Dean” just got too big. To their credit, running The Scheme for 18 years is pretty darn impressive as flim flams go.

Of course, “they” could have been running a human trafficking and kiddie porn racket out of the Dean Dome and no one was going to dare ask any questions or raise an eyebrow. Dean's Dome was/is not unlike the Obama White House in that regard. “Messianic Demagogues” can get away with near’bout anything..... for a while.

Is this not a GREAT TIME to have one's own website with an impressively large audience? It certainly is.

OK, I’m gonna go back to my HDTV and see if I can find Butch – The Cleveland Years. Maybe its on that ESPN Del Norte channel.....

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Georgia swim coach gives extra benefit; doesn’t promote compliance

The University of Georgia head swimming and diving coach did not promote an atmosphere for compliance when he made special arrangements for a student-athlete to enroll in an independent study course to maintain eligibility, according to a decision issued by a Division I Committee on Infractions panel.

Penalties include a $5,000 fine, a nine competition suspension for the head coach and a one-year recruiting restriction for the head coach.

UGA's swim program is kind of a big deal...relatively-speaking an' all. "Top 15 at Men's NCAA national championships every year since 1997." That's a pretty stiff penalty. Multiply it by a gazillion and their offenses might get in the same area code as unx's. Long story short , given the precedent , unx should get nuked back to the Stone Age....

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Jay Smith feelin' chatty today... wink.gif
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Chansky: better not to know the truth.
RT @DavidGlennShow "I wouldn't have done Waintstein Report--they had already put reforms in place."

Professor Wolf ‏@ProfessrWolf

@jaysmith711 Question for Art, how do you know if the reforms are appropriate if you aren't sure the scope of the areas needing reformed? Of course I'd expect that from Art. He has much to defend. pic.twitter.com/ozvBmIgSmi "Stain cannot be erased without a complete change of command." Art Chansky (10/6/2010). http://dig.abclocal.go.com/wtvd/docs/chanskyemail_121510.pdf

Jay Smith ‏@jaysmith711

@ProfessrWolf Yes, he also wanted critics of unc fired. Much better to protect bb brand than university's integrity.

Jeff Foster ‏@vwjfos

@jaysmith711 @DavidGlennShow the people in A&S who allowed this to happen are the ones who should be fired.

Jay Smith ‏@jaysmith711

@vwjfos @DavidGlennShow OK, but what about the ones who ASKED for it to happen? The ones who sought out free rides? Hilarious. As man who hired and patronized W Walden, is Roy implicated in Art's call for change of command? Would seem so.

Jeff Foster ‏@vwjfos

@jaysmith711 @DavidGlennShow okay, I will play along. Who asked for this to happen?

Jay Smith ‏@jaysmith711

@vwjfos @DavidGlennShow Most if not all academic counselors and the people who put the pressure on them--coaches, admissions officers, ADs.

Jeff Foster ‏@vwjfos

@jaysmith711 @DavidGlennShow academic counselors asked for an AFAM program with paper classes and A&S dutifully followed this path because Ol Roy wanted it? Proof?

Professor Wolf ‏@ProfessrWolf

@jaysmith711 Ironic, isn't it? A person calling for critics to be fired was fired for being a critic.

Jay Smith ‏@jaysmith711

@ProfessrWolf Ironic one way to look at it. Chansky has never made much sense to me.

Professor Wolf ‏@ProfessrWolf

@jaysmith711 But Jay, I write these things to you in a public forum "with the highest degree of confidentiality." #PublicRecords

Jay Smith ‏@jaysmith711

@vwjfos @DavidGlennShow Long pre-dated Roy (as head coach anyway.) As for proof, read the book and decide for yourself.

Harry Ramstein ‏@HarryRamstein

@ProfessrWolf @jaysmith711 unc basketball is sacrosanct. Everything else(football) can be thrown under the bus/revamped/rogues fired

Professor Wolf ‏@ProfessrWolf

@jaysmith711 It makes you wonder, over the history of Art's insider access, what else was "confidentially" communicated by email.

Jay Smith ‏@jaysmith711

@ProfessrWolf Biggest reveal in latest DK piece was that unc had withheld many emails he had requested. Indefensible.

Jeff Foster ‏@vwjfos

@jaysmith711 @DavidGlennShow fair enough. I will take a look.

Jay Smith ‏@jaysmith711

@HarryRamstein @ProfessrWolf Our leaders have certainly given outside world every reason to think this is true.

Professor Wolf ‏@ProfessrWolf

@jaysmith711 When you cannot defend past actions (and inaction), you hire a public relations firm so you can "Move Forward Together."

Jay Smith ‏@jaysmith711

@ProfessrWolf I wish that we at unc were not so easily mocked. Thing is, it's the stuff done SINCE 2010 that is most embarrassing.

Professor Wolf ‏@ProfessrWolf

@jaysmith711 The period of mocking will pass just as has happened with the era of preaching about the "carolina Way."

Jay Smith ‏@jaysmith711

@ProfessrWolf Well, first we will need to stop doing mock-worthy things. Not sure the end is in sight for that.

Kenny McComb ‏@Kenny_McComb

@jaysmith711 @ProfessrWolf People must stand up and do the right thing. Do you repaint termite infested wood or do you completely fix it?

Jay Smith ‏@jaysmith711

@Kenny_McComb @ProfessrWolf They've ordered up paint by the bucket.

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@yibyabby It would be hard to come up with a top ten list of worst mistakes, 2010-2014. Too many candidates for that list.

Harry Ramstein ‏@HarryRamstein

@jaysmith711 @yibyabby The Hartlyn Andrews Report should be No 1. lol

Jay Smith ‏@jaysmith711

@HarryRamstein @yibyabby Certainly a contender. Burning of the Willingham witch on January 17, 2014 hard to beat, however. Also...FEC rally on the steps of South Building after HT resignation a real highlight. And what about claim that parking tix were FERPA protected? Or the Julius Peppers fiasco? Too many candidates...

B. Martin ‏@yibyabby

@jaysmith711 I flip-flopped hard between 1/14 and 1/20, first swallowing whole what Dean was serving; then...I'll stop the metaphor there.

Jay Smith ‏@jaysmith711

@yibyabby He served with conviction, for sure. Whole purpose was to discredit whistleblower AND her many revelations, sweep her aside.

B. Martin ‏@yibyabby

@jaysmith711 Since u r chatty today ;-> Did Dean or anyone ever invite MW to explain how she'd derived her findings? Did MW ever offer?

Jay Smith ‏@jaysmith711

@yibyabby He never asked, she never offered--doesn't respond too well to bullying.

Kenny McComb ‏@Kenny_McComb

@jaysmith711 @DevilDJ32 @HarryRamstein @yibyabby And then beating up MW when they did "Chat."

B. Martin ‏@yibyabby

@jaysmith711 That's too bad. Though I'm told Dean was never truly interested in an explanation; used opportunity to demonize MW.

Harry Ramstein ‏@HarryRamstein

@yibyabby @jaysmith711 But he did go to Paul Barrett of Bloomberg BW, got on his knees and pleaded to stop the "negative publicity" lol

DevilDJ ‏@DevilDJ32

@HarryRamstein @jaysmith711 @yibyabby CBC steps-n-fetchs for unc athletics. Deb Stroman's reprehensible interview on @OTLonESP. Inclusion?

Jay Smith ‏@jaysmith711

@DevilDJ32 @HarryRamstein @yibyabby Caucus statement very unfortunate, yes. How about C Folt not inviting Mary to come talk for 10 mos? The institution needs a whistleblower policy. And JD and CF should study it. Fun chatting. But I'm off for the night.

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question for Carol Folt.........WERE THERE ANY LEGAL AGREEMENTS WITH THE NCAA CONCERNING A FUTURE VISIT FROM THE NCAA AFTER THEIR FIRST VISIT ?

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Re: unc Scandal - DBR Kane podcast: page 21

This was posted a few weeks ago.

"Op-ed: Mark Emmert faced UW culture that went "horribly awry" before Penn State"

***In 2008 The Seattle Times published a series, "Victory and Ruins," that showed how the UW and our community had turned a blind eye to the destructive, off-the-field conduct of some members of Washington's 2000 team, the last to win the Rose Bowl. Those events didn't occur under Emmert's watch — he became UW president in 2004 — but he confronted the fallout, calling the newspaper's revelations "shocking" and "deeply disturbing."

At the UW, members of the 2000 team — as well as other players, in years before — knew that if they were in danger of flunking out, they could always turn to Swahili to bump up their grade-point average.***
http://seattletimes.com/html/opinion/20187...narmstrong.html


Who was the president of the University of Washington (before Mark Emmert arrived) which brought about this culture of using Swahili classes to keep athletes eligible?

Richard McCormick.


McCormick served as President of the University of Washington from 1995 to 2002.

McCormick served as vice chancellor and provost at the University of North carolina at Chapel Hill from 1992 to 1995.

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