Mason Returns Options

[DevilDJ]

Cool. No comparison to the McAdoo situation either.

[82 93 05]

Ratface lied to him and convinced him to stay, costing him MILLIONS.

[DevilDJ]

Ratface lied to him and convinced him to stay, costing him MILLIONS.

That's Roy's gig. Like I said , nuthin' like the McAdoo situation.

[82 93 05]

That's Roy's gig. Like I said , nuthin' like the McAdoo situation.

Oh well if you say so....

Ratface wouldn't let Plumlee fuck his program.

[Champs 5 times]

No comparison to the McAdoo situation either.

How? He was projected as a first-rounder, which is a guaranteed contract. Meaning, he's losing out on at least one year of a contract that is guaranteed to pay a million dollars.

So, by moodookie logic, K COST HIM MIRRRRRRIONS

[blueduke]

How? He was projected as a first-rounder, which is a guaranteed contract. Meaning, he's losing out on at least one year of a contract that is guaranteed to pay a million dollars.

So, by moodookie logic, K COST HIM MIRRRRRRIONS

McAdoo was projected close to the top no? I know Mason wasn't. A link would be helpful

[Champs 5 times]

McAdoo was projected close to the top no? I know Mason wasn't. A link would be helpful

The whole idea though was that he was giving up something "guaranteed" in order to get nothing because his coach was selfish. It's not like a mill a year is anything to sneeze at, even if 2 mill is more.

DraftExpress had him as 26th (most other sites have already taken him off the board due to the announcement):

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Mason-Plumlee-5231/

[DevilDJ]

The whole idea though was that he was giving up something "guaranteed" in order to get nothing because his coach was selfish. It's not like a mill a year is anything to sneeze at, even if 2 mill is more.

DraftExpress had him as 26th (most other sites have already taken him off the board due to the announcement):

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Mason-Plumlee-5231/

Mason was damn near SECOND round! Apples and motorcycles. Can't believe anyone's even trying to equate the two.

[blueduke]

Mason was damn near SECOND round! Apples and motorcycles. Can't believe anyone's even trying to equate the two.

Just chalk it up to hole logic, DJ

DraftExpress had him as 26th

26th?????????? McAdoo was top ten, no? And you're trying to equate the two

[Lee Corso]

The whole idea though was that he was giving up something "guaranteed" in order to get nothing because his coach was selfish. It's not like a mill a year is anything to sneeze at, even if 2 mill is more.

DraftExpress had him as 26th (most other sites have already taken him off the board due to the announcement):

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Mason-Plumlee-5231/

Plumlee's stock will RISE, most likely (it IS a risk, though). McAdoo's has nowhere to go but down.

[82 93 05]

Mason's mock draft history

Mason was projected in the TOP TEN of the 2011 draft at one time.

My God, Ratface caused his stock to plummet and has cost him MILLIONS.

[Champs 5 times]

Mason's mock draft history

Mason was projected in the TOP TEN of the 2011 draft at one time.

My God, Ratface caused his stock to plummet and has cost him MILLIONS.

Ah, there ya go. Judging from the direction his stock has been going, he just cost himself his last chance at a guaranteed NBA contract worth millions.

[82 93 05]

Plumlee's stock will RISE, most likely

After falling dramatically. Clearly, he should've left last year. So Ratface has cost Mason 2 years of guaranteed lotto money.

So if McAdoo's stock falls to where he is projected at the end of the 1st round next year, then he decides to come back ANOTHER year, then he will have done what Plumlee did.

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[pertsix]

Mason's mock draft history

Mason was projected in the TOP TEN of the 2011 draft at one time.

My God, Ratface caused his stock to plummet and has cost him MILLIONS.

Ah, there ya go. Judging from the direction his stock has been going, he just cost himself his last chance at a guaranteed NBA contract worth millions.

After falling dramatically. Clearly, he should've left last year. So Ratface has cost Mason 2 years of guaranteed lotto money.

So if McAdoo's stock falls to where he is projected at the end of the 1st round next year, then he decides to come back ANOTHER year, then he will have done what Plumlee did.

[82 93 05]

Apples and motorcycles. Can't believe anyone's even trying to equate the two.

You are actually correct - McAdoo is projected in Top 4 next year so is expected to significantly improve his draft position. Mason P was projected 26th this year, and has decided to pass on a year's salary to go into the 2013 draft where he's currently projected at TWENTY-SEVEN.

[rachelix]

good. glad he took the long view.

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Excellent. Thank you. Probably a good move on your part given that your argument has been destroyed since Ratface screwed Plumlee and made him give up MILLIONS.

I look forward to no more posts from you on this thread.

[DevilDJ]

Ah, there ya go. Judging from the direction his stock has been going, he just cost himself his last chance at a guaranteed NBA contract worth millions

Dude. You discredited Chad Ford's mock draft. DE is more suitable to your argument so , yeah , it's gospel. Knee-grow please.

unc's McAdoo deciding; 'He's definitely a lottery pick,' father says

http://www.news-record.com/content/2012/04...ick_father_says

The question isn't if he's ready to be the guy who lives up to whatever standard you create for a top 10 pick. The question is if he made the right decision for himself going forward and you would have to have some absurd beliefs in order to justify him coming back.

The bottom line is that if a guy has so many years of basketball in him and if you elect to play an extra one of those years for free in college there would have to be some incredible return on the back end and the only way you can say that a guy has made the right choice by returning is the belief that the extra year will result in him being a better player by the time his second contract comes around. Given that in college a player is restricted in how much time he can practice and in who he can practice with, and in the NBA he has unlimited practice time and resources, the notion that he can prepare better in college than the NBA seems unlikely.

The numbers work out that if a guy leaves this year and is the #10 pick he would have to get a bump all the way to the #4 pick in next year's draft just to break even after 7-8 years, assuming they would see the same level of second contract when the time came.

Who said anything about Mcadoo being NBA-ready? Dude is a lotto pick ($$$).

I think we are at the part where the carolina fan mischaracterizes the majority opinion on the thread to serve his needs.

He would have went #6 or #7. Can't get much better than that. Let's see how he breaks under the pressure being the #1 option on his team something he is not even a little used to. Watch him fall into the teens after this year I will have no sympathy for that hole for listening to Roy and not doing his own research.

Seriously, guy? this is the third year in row, roy has managed to talk a kid out of making millions to come back. He's laying a guilt trip or flat out lying to these kids. Coming back to school didnt work out so well for Ed Davis or Harrison Barnes, did it? Both sw their draft stock slip significantly. You'd think JMM would see this trend. Only roy williams can turn one and done players into 2+ year players. He's a worthless piece of human trash. i thought he refused to let players back if they were lottery picks? yet another lie from the master manipulator, roy williams

Lol, mcadoo is projected 5-10, tells everyone and their mom he is gone, his parents okay the decision

....and Roy convinces him to come back.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Roy literally does not GAF about what is best for his players. It's the most hilarious yet sad thing ever.

Once again, Roi gets his teeth into an impressionable young man and makes him forgo his own self interest. Disgraceful

He could... he could also drop about 15 spots in a heartbeat. How many points and rebounds do you think he'd have to average next year in order to remain a top 10 pick? If he only doubles his scoring average, he'll not only drop... he'll plummet. He'll have to average 16-18 points and 8-9 rebounds a game to stay a top 10 pick, and to actually move up, he'd have to be more in the 18-20/9-10 range. Henson's injury played out ideally for him this season. He saw his draft stock soar (or more appropriately, he saw it recover to its pre-Roy level) just by playing well in 3-4 games at the end of the season. He can't hide from anyone next season. Defenses will key on him... gameplan for him. He'll be the guy, and he'll be scrutinized very closely as a guy that gave up a lottery spot. Just like Barnes and Sullinger were this season... and both those guys dropped in the draft because of their decisions. Barnes had all the hype in the world coming into this season because of a few well-timed shots in games that should've never been close in the first place. Without the "adjustment" excuse, suddenly everyone realized that he wasn't as good as they assumed he was.

Ed Davis gave up a top 5 spot and went #13 the next year. Harry Barnes gave up a top 3 spot and will likely go 5-12. unc hasn't had a top 5 pick in the draft since 2005, and they've only had ONE player that stuck around longer than a single season go Top 5 in the draft since Bill Guthridge was coach... FOURTEEN YEARS AGO. So why, exactly, should we think McAdoo will buck that trend, considering ALL the top 5 recruits unc has had in that span that haven't?

Need a link?

[Lee Corso]

Roy did the same thing at Kansas. This is no surprise.